A discussion on the Crow's hitbox.

[Jihadjoe]

Well, to be honest I wouldn't say it needs a nerf. I'd just say it needs a custom hitbox, That way it would have all the weakenesses of a vanilla ship[ (going pop at the slightest hint of an explosion, losing all its guns etc). The agility is fine the way it is, maybe just an armour nerf and only make that slight...

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[Jinx]

wonder why it has a resized rhino hitbox anyway when a valkyrie hitbox should match its shape much better anyway...

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[Horon]

I fail to see the relation between custom hitboxes, and explosion unfriendly ships...

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[Jinx]

there is none. - a custom hitbox just fits the shape of the ship better - in order to make ships fall apart and actually have different "parts" - it needs a completely new model ( or models that replace it when parts are shot off ) aswell as multiple hitboxes.

so - a custom hitbox as such will just fit the ship, no more and no less - its still not vulnerable to missiles / blasts.

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[mjolnir]

I don't think it needs custom hitbox.... it has very simillar shape to Dagger/Scimitair... (no not Valkyrie since that one has high "fin" in the middle and very thin wings).

So a bit upsized Dagger hitbox will fit nicely.

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[Dusty Lens]

If the community were willing, I'd be so bold as to suggest that Jinx is right on the money. The Wrath's hitbox would be eminently more suitable for the overall shape of the Crow.

I don't know much about models or modeling, but if there were someone out there who could perform the switcheroo and file all of the necessary paperwork, I'd gladly compensate for the time.

[AdamantineFist]

Wow... that's just silly. A rhino hitbox? Wow...:shok:Someone PLEASE fix that.

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[chopper]

Just a few quick notes..

Yes, Wrath hitbox would fit nicely.
Yes, Dagger hitbox would fit nicely.

Not in the original size though!

It needs to be much bigger then Wrath in order to be balanced.
You all know that Wrath hitbox (with Wrath size) is very hard to hit.
Add 1.5 agility and invulnerability to explosives on top of that and you get - 'impossible to destroy' ship.

I'v flown a Crow for a short time. Yes, it's hard to aim with it (it can be fixed though).
Yes it's easy to hit it.
But it's a balanced ship in my opinion, even as it is with that bloody huge hitbox.
I think it should be around Eagle size at least, with Wrath/Dagger hitbox.
And currently, model is smaller then Eagle model (model, not hitbox. hitbox is larger then Eagle hitbox). At least I think.

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Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del

[Boss]

So, I think we are agreed:


The Crow needs a nerf, in the best sense of the word.

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Just go play the game and have fun dammit.

all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.

[pchwang]

Well, Chopper, even if the Crow got the Wrath hitbox, it also has a much smaller powerplant.

I would suggest nerfing it's maneuverability to accomodate the new hitbox. Frankly, I think it's easier than resizing the hitbox.

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