Hitting cruise to catch up an afterburnering pilot

[sovereign]

Well, I was the one fleeing with afterburner (a cheetah), and the three guys after me cruised to catch up, at least one hit engine kill and fired, then it was cat and mouse. I finally sun dove (I could have gotten away completely but was heavily damaged and didn't want a server crash to leave me that way), they were still chasing me but were out of gun range.
Here's the issue, if someone flees you can chase to reengage, right? So do they have to wait until I am a certain distance away to hit cruise?

Also, if you are chasing someone to catch and reengage, but are behind them and out of weaps range and they sundive does that count as a pvp death?

If they e-killed and fired at you while you were not in cruise, that's against the rules. If you are moving faster than 200 m/s and fire, your target must also be moving faster than 200 m/s.

If you sundive as they are chasing you, it counts, kind of- you fled a PvP fight and all those rules applied, and you died during a roleplay (hopefully) encounter, so the same rules apply for that too.

As for how long it is before they are fleeing, no closer than 4.2k should EVER be considered fleeing, as the Nova can be flung that far- you are still in weapons range at that point. There is no real consensus (and shouldn't be, otherwise it would be abused) but 4.2k is too close, and 10k (no longer selectable on scanners) is far enough.

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[Colonel Z.e.r.o.]

interesting....

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Nathan's Log || The "Real Story" of Lenox Casper

[mjolnir]

To be perfectly clear here he hit cruise at least 6 times before that and got cded. Since he did it he was fleeing and the others can hit cruise, e-kill + fire or whatever else when pursuing.

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[Akumabito]

If they e-killed and fired at you while you were not in cruise, that's against the rules.

No way to prove it though, even if I had a screenie it wouldn't show that.

Now, the same guy or one of that group accused the two on my side of shield running, we were outnumbered 7 to 2 and were threading a jump gate to avoid a lot of the fire. I don't see that as shield running in any way, shape or form, we were always in gun range, and were just using the JG as cover.

[mjolnir]

Now, the same guy or one of that group accused the two on my side of shield running, we were outnumbered 7 to 2 and were threading a jump gate to avoid a lot of the fire. I don't see that as shield running in any way, shape or form, we were always in gun range, and were just using the JG as cover.

Your numbers are a bit funny... but ok.

He was unhappy about you hiding in the gate yes.. but it's perfectly legal... I told him to stop screaming.

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[Akumabito]

To be perfectly clear here he hit cruise at least 6 times before that and got cded. Since he did it he was fleeing and the others can hit cruise, e-kill + fire or whatever else when pursuing.

Who me? I never hit cruise until after the pursuers hit cruise, e killed and shot at me while I was still in afterburner. Then I hit cruise. I had a cheetah with full energy when I left the JG, I didn't need cruise to outrun you.

I was at 200k the whole time, that's why you caught up in cruise, and that's why the CD's when I left the JG didn't have any effect on me.

[sovereign]

To be perfectly clear here he hit cruise at least 6 times before that and got cded. Since he did it he was fleeing and the others can hit cruise, e-kill + fire or whatever else when pursuing.

In that case, yeah, they can nail you. Whoever hits cruise first is the one fleeing, the one who hits cruise afterwards is pursuing.

Funny how people's tales of events never match up, isn't it...

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[mjolnir]

Who me? I never hit cruise until after the pursuers hit cruise, e killed and shot at me while I was still in afterburner. Then I hit cruise. I had a cheetah with full energy when I left the JG, I didn't need cruise to outrun you.

Didn't really looked that way... maybe because of the lag that teleported you some 1k a few times ( at least for me) anyway you were by all means fleeing. When we killed the other GC you were more than 10k away headed to the JH. I would not say you were in the fight by then.

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[Akumabito]

In that case, yeah, they can nail you. Whoever hits cruise first is the one fleeing, the one who hits cruise afterwards is pursuing.

Except I never hit cruise until after the pursures hit cruise, caught up with me while I was still afterburner, e killed, shot at me while I was still afterburner.

Then I changed direction and hit cruise while they were e killed, that's how I turned that no lead into a 2-3 k lead.

Funny how people's tales of events never match up, isn't it...

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Akumabito]

Didn't really looked that way... maybe because of the lag that teleported you some 1k a few times ( at least for me) anyway you were by all means fleeing. When we killed the other GC you were more than 10k away headed to the JH. I would not say you were in the fight by then.

The funny thing is, the three of you chasing me were never 10k away, and I was dodging your guns until you hit cruise when your afterburners tapped out, so I don't know where you get this 10 k from.