Clarification Wanted: Bounty System

[Hone]

Ok, so we asked a guy from discovery staff about this.

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[18:27:24] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: Well, it's not necessarily an escort
[18:27:24] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: just
[18:27:33] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: can somebody hire a freelancer to actually kill/shoot somebody that's away?
[18:27:34] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: like
[18:27:35] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: 10k away
[18:27:37] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: 20k away
[18:27:39] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: known to be in the system
[18:27:40] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: etc.
[18:27:46] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: not right here shooting at you
[18:28:58] Aeternus Doleo: So long as the target is made aware of it, I suppose it falls under this rule. Would fall under the "on the spot" bounty rule. Other party must be made aware of the bounty.
[18:29:35] Aeternus Doleo: ... and remember they have to be specific. Only factions can post blanket bounties.

I see. Can he be made aware of this by the bountied person himself? Like, he's flying up to him, says, "You've got a bounty on your head, just got it via private comms"? Or, if not, can he say "You've got a bounty on your head, person X wants you dead"?
[18:30:51] КФШВ ПФЬЬФ УМУКН ВФН: [18:29] Aeternus Doleo:

<<< ... and remember they have to be specific. Only factions can post blanket bounties.That raises another question - can i use freelancer as in first example, i.e. jump via hole and shoot anybody hanging there?
[18:48:54] Aeternus Doleo: Not just "you got a bounty on your head". The bountying party must be identified. "BigBadBoss wants your head." This so that if there is any doubt about the validity of the bounty claim, the party that initiated it can be verified.

So Basicly - we actually can hire someone in space to kill someone for us without being involved ourselves at all. It's enough to say "Player X bountied you, defend yourself" to make him aware of this without posting a bounty on the board.

So we need a clear clarification on this.

Aert's an admin isnt he?

@Hone: Do you want to be the player in the example i posted? maybe 2-3 times a day? I think this is just a can of player hate to open...

Way to much mercing anyways...

"Stay sharp. Drop your guard out here, even for a second, that's all it takes"

Where have you heard those words before? Oh yes, every NPC ever. YES I think you should be able to die at the drop of a hat, thats what freelancer space is supposed to be like, you have to stay constantly alert, or face the consequences.

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[Remilia Scarlet]

Aert's an admin isnt he?

Is he?

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[Hone]

http://discoverygc.com/forums/member.php...&uid=14458

yes

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[Remilia Scarlet]

Well, then. So the question stays - can we hire mercs to kill people (not escort or assist) in game without posting a bounty on forum.

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[Hone]

Well an admin said you could, but i agree, GREENTEXT would be best.

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[Remilia Scarlet]

Yes, we demand GREENTEXT

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[Veygaar]

I was in big trouble for this, other people have been sanctioned for this. AD is new to the Admin staff. You can under no circumstances make an ingame bounty. You can hire a Freelancer to ASSIST you in combat.

Let's take a look at the rules, because they were brought to me when I was getting all mad about this rule aswell.

Bounty-hunting, mercenary and freelance hire

7.1 All bounties must be posted on the forum. If you attack another player to claim a bounty and the bounty is not posted on the forum, you are open to a PvP abuse sanction.

Mercenaries, freelancers and bounty hunters may be hired on the spot in game to assist with a combat without a forum post. The other parties involved in the combat must be made aware of this.*

Take note:

may be hired on the spot in game to assist with a combat

to assist with a combat

It was for this very clause that I was in trouble just a few months ago, I "bountied" a Codename Dealer that was near me when I was in my transport (note he was not attacking me nor was I attacking him, I was a transport afterall). 4 Mercs "took" my "bounty" and killed him, with me beaming in the goods.

We were all in trouble for making/claiming a bounty that was not posted in forums.

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[Silver]

Okay kids. It's like this.

Situation: Pirate A is pirating lane. A merc passes by at the same time a juicy trader/military/etc. Pirate hires the merc.

Now. The Trader/Military/Etc must be aware of the bounty. So, what can happen is the following.

Pirate hires the merc in local chat. Merc says yes. Contract issued.
Merc and Pirate pop's target. Merc gets payed. Pirate keeps pirating.

Pirate hires the merc in pm. Merc says yes. But the merc or pirate have to say that the merc got hired to shoot his worthless Trader/Military/etc hide in a message.
Contract issued. Merc and Pirate pop's target. Merc gets payed. Pirate keeps pirating.

Same thing can happen with the fight already happening.

But the key in this is that all people in the pre-fight or on-going fight are made aware of that the merc was hired.

And i am not talking about /l1 /l2 set messages and engagements.
It means proper roleplay.

If you have any doubts, check Dusty's Wisdom #9 in my signature.
Fyi, you don't need to know the rest.
You're too young for that.

Pro-tip: Take screenshots of the convo and money transfer with timestamps.
That way, you're in the clear.

<3

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[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:12:00] Traxit: this is smut stop

[Silver]

And i still need to make that easy to understand guide about bounty hunting rules that i said i would be doing like... 6 months ago.

<3

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[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:12:00] Traxit: this is smut stop

[Veygaar]

To sum up Silver's words: Hiring someone to assist you is ok. Sending them to go kill someone on their own, is not (unless you have a forum posted bounty).

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