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Poll: What should have higher priority?
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only infocard
14.04%
8 14.04%
nosly infocard
38.60%
22 38.60%
both equall
35.09%
20 35.09%
mostly selling location
8.77%
5 8.77%
only selling location
3.51%
2 3.51%
Total 57 vote(s) 100%
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Offline tfmachad
06-22-2008, 02:23 PM,
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' Wrote:Point 3) is basically community consensus... so I'm expecting it to take ages and last forever... and there an admin should put a final vote once we get there... right now we are still at 1)

EDIT: Cmon people I was hoping to come with solutions... "it's difficult" is not a solution.

Especially now after the Tigershark affair....
Even though it sounded like I was saying it was a difficult thing (it is), I also gave a solution I think it's best. Which is re-writing the infocards based on community consensus.

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Offline McNeo
06-22-2008, 02:31 PM,
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I just wish there was a tad more common sense, as thats all it takes instead of a list. However, a list is neccessary to avoid confusion on certain issues such as whether civilian things are universal or not.

I also believe that ship use of the NPCs need to be taken into as much account as the infocard itself (voted mostly infocard). Since I see GC flying Blood Dragons instead of Eagles and less recently, mollys flying Sabres, which are two examples of what I personally disagree with. Of course, I am a cynic, I live in Britain, the most cynical country in the world:dry:.

I will help you compile the list Mjolnir, if you want help. However it must be explicitly said that there is the capacity for a lot of exceptions. RP does contribute to this, but I am not in favour of blanket military deals opening up superior technology to an entire faction who lacked it beforehand.

Then again, these are just my views.
 
Offline RingoW
06-22-2008, 02:52 PM,
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Made my vote and digged out an old thread of mine with reworked ship selling locations (Spoiler!)

selling locations

AoM
Offline Boss
06-22-2008, 03:51 PM,
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Nosly infocard:dry:
ID/faction with allowed ships next to it
Yes

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Offline ScornStar
06-22-2008, 10:03 PM,
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I said Info card as THE source for info. Without that then nothing our character reads is true in character knowledge.

It should be sorted in a general way to leave room for RP we have not considered yet. Dont lock too much down.

The last YES/NO question I had to go against the grain. No. Because then we are encourageing some kind of RP and not others, thus breeding many possibilies out and status quo built to suit a few of us who have narrow scope of the whole communities possibilies.

Leave room for new folk we have yet to get with sweet ideas we have yet to read. Dont encourage RP because it will be impossible to for any one of us to lay down the RP bible.

My two cents.

On the other hand I saw a ALG trader in a Liberty Assault Battle Criuser in Sigma 13. Grrrr..... I asked about RP..........Didnt know what it was.

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Offline Dusty Lens
06-23-2008, 08:44 AM,
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Somewhat ironically in light of my stern defence of The Order/Coalition/Xenos/Phantoms/other "bomberless" factions having access to the Taiidan, I recently began a revised infocard/ship selling location MKII utilizing various infocard editing programs in an effort to re-designate ship selling locations, clean up ship ownership issues and generally give the infocards a thorough scrubbing. I hope to have a rough draft of my efforts done within the week, if not sooner and to submit the results to the community.

However, that being said I'm going to abstain from voting in this poll for the time being, feeling as I do that the issues that the vote is addressing will be better left until after the upcoming mod change.
Offline Angelfire
06-23-2008, 09:00 AM,
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I love the idea of 'civilian ships' for indies as well as faction specific ships.

The faction specific VHF/Gunboat and CapShip will also encourage new players to join factions which stimulates RP...

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Offline mjolnir
06-23-2008, 11:08 AM,
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Well I made a first version of the list.

It's now in "capable hands" undergoing some first revision.

I used mostly infocards, but in some cases a bit the selling location as well. Another point was what NPCs fly and I also considered the revised selling locations made by AoM.


I did divide it into 3 categories:

1) Red - not allowed
2) Yellow - allowed
3) Green - best RPwise, should be the only ships used by official factions

Also point is if this should be a "general ship- use guideline" or "allowed by the rules" list. I vote for something in between of those two.

There is a lot of red in the chart as it is now, so it's likely to change to more yellow-like. But I do believe the green spots will stay the same. All the "uncertain" ships can alway fall into the Yellow category.

However even the most hated factions (like Xenos) have 1LF, 6 VHFs and 2 bombers to choose from.

In a way house millitary factions are by far the most restricted as they should only fly 1 ship from each category. (Except BAF who should


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I don't really agree with "wait until 4.85" that's at least a month to go at best (and believe more like 3 months). The ships with "infocard problems" as you say can always fall into the yellow category
Doesn't hurt to have a list in the meantime.



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Offline tiepo
06-23-2008, 09:55 PM,
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You could use the list that Ra! created. It is a decent master list of ships with location and price. Better yet, it is in excel, which allows the user to sort it however they please. E.g. Faction, then ship type, then price.

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Offline ryoken
06-24-2008, 12:02 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-24-2008, 12:37 AM by ryoken.)
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I did not vote because the english in the pole was so bad, i did not understand the possible answer's.

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