Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID.

[Echo 7-7]

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"do random Zoners really need battleships?"

No. They don't.
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Just remove them from the ID. A destroyer is plenty for your average Zoner.

This one is indeed wise, and thinks similarly to some of the Developers.

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There was a sig here, once.

[EisenSeele]

Change the zoner Juggy from a battleship to a fancy liner. Maybe either shrink it or give it better than transport shields.

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[Sabru]

Change the zoner Juggy from a battleship to a fancy liner. Maybe either shrink it or give it better than transport shields.

The ships themselves dont need changing,

just how and who uses them.

your average run of the mill zoner only needs a dessie. As Kaz said, if a zoner needs BSes, then either
1. if their an official group, and the devs think there is enough reason to warrant it, give them their own ID

or

2. SRP them.

And dont use the catch-all "nomads are dangerous" line. because any faction could use that and ask for BSes.

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[DarthBindo]

The Zoners have all sorts of fancy toys beacuse Jinx has the models for them.

True story.

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[Pan-Sirius.Shipyard]

@second option They already do in a way.
But as an in-RP consequence, they get shot at.
Also they can't dock with caps in house space anyway.

I agree with that. The zoner BS is already restricted in that sense.
If the majority is so fussed about an indie zoner having a BS, the restriction can go further as the Orders -- let them stay in Omicrons far away.

Why don't you ask for restriction house navy BS to the indies?! I have seen too many indies flying various house navy BS -- some even use liberty carrier to trade cargos.

[Ryus]

I have an indie one that I inherited from someone, and I have racked my brain trying to find ways to RP properly with it. Tried to just fly it as a big mobile home, but all anyone sees is a battleship (understandable) and you just wind up trying to convince them to leave you alone even when you have them heavily outgunned. So I wind up just kinda derping around in space with it. The zoner ID is limited in a way that it doesn't make that much sense. Probably wouldn't be that sad to lose it.

[Huhuh]

This keeps getting suggested over and over, but devs keep ignoring it.

Blaming Jinx for Zoner conspiracy.

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[Remilia Scarlet]

"Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID."

YES YEYEYSYESYEYSEYSYEYEYEY YYYY

I disagree looking purely from the Lore of Vanilla Freelancer which was then molded into the Lore of Discovery Freelancer as it is today, the whole nomad war started with scenes showing Freeport 7, a zoner base in Sigma 17 being destroyed by Nomad Battleships: http://discoverygc.com/wiki/Freeport_7 .

You wanted to say "by few nomad fighters" right? In vanilla battleships of any sorts were playing a scenic role and were damping itself to a few torps, as well as bases.

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Where the end starts | Submergence | Awaken | Scarlet D(a\o)wn | Remilia wiki page
BECAUSE YOU DON'T SAY SLAUGHTER WITHOUT LAUGHTER

[Altejago]

Is this where I complain about my oorp Zoner juggy being OP and that I can spread my love around Sirius only in that ship?

Oh wait....

The ship was free. I don't care about it, and it makes my Juggy sad.

* Altejago protest marches outside Jynx' model shop

Look what you brought upon us! Toys we can play with and Q.Q with others about!!

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[EisenSeele]

Change the zoner Juggy from a battleship to a fancy liner. Maybe either shrink it or give it better than transport shields.

The ships themselves dont need changing,

just how and who uses them.

your average run of the mill zoner only needs a dessie. As Kaz said, if a zoner needs BSes, then either
1. if their an official group, and the devs think there is enough reason to warrant it, give them their own ID

or

2. SRP them.

And dont use the catch-all "nomads are dangerous" line. because any faction could use that and ask for BSes.

Removing juggies from the general populace outright would cause a crapstorm of angry little zoners, and leave a little bit of a hole where people have RP'd out having colony ships. Leaving them in, but as Shukensha sized colony liners would allow for people to not get a rather large investment just poof, and allow people to continue playing out having enough colony ships to colonize the rest of the universe. In peace.

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