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[Traxit]

a fair fight

In RP, this does not and should not exist for any faction unless some kind of honour is part their rp. They are machines. 5v1 is optimal, as is ignoring you're <query>. I see no problem here grasshopper.

So because of your "RP" you'll be a total poopoo head and not give out a somewhat fair fight, say 1v3 at maximum?
PvP itself, as in the act of shooting, not the reason of doing so, is ooRP. And as such should be met with ooRP morals. Which is, surprise surprise, not being a poophead and giving a chance, even the slightest bit, of gaining at-least one blue.

This "RP over PvP" is really dumb and only shows ooRPly that you're no fun to play around with.
Which also in-turn, breeds ooRP hatred and revenge ganks in the future.

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[Wesker]

a fair fight

In RP, this does not and should not exist for any faction unless some kind of honour is part their rp. They are machines. 5v1 is optimal, as is ignoring you're <query>. I see no problem here grasshopper.

Making inrp justifications to gank someone is total bullshit.

Not that I have anything against PRIME, but just saying if you treat people like that, expect the same treatment in return, and don't whine about ganks happening when they do.

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[Char Aznable]

PvP itself, as in the act of shooting, not the reason of doing so, is ooRP

That's a negative, and will always be. PvP is part of RP, and as such unfair fights are not something that I am absolutely opposed to. In my case, by the way, this "shoot them with everything possible"-attitude only applies if ships are threatening the Imperial Home systems, and from PRIMEs PoV, the ship that refused to turn away multiple times was a perceived threat, ergo they shot it with everything they had.

I'd like to add that I'm not in PRIME, but this "PvP is not a part of RP and should therefore follow the netiquette rules"-attitude really should stay in Conn. It's an attitude propagated by people who see this game as a space shooter with optional RP, which it isn't. Not that I usually gank people - I take other people's fun into consideration usually and attack with maximum 1 fighter advantage (unless I am losing the fight, that is, in which case I draw in reinforcements), but if it is PRIMEs RP to attack people threatening their home with everything they have, I do not see anything wrong with it.

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#notmyfrankfurt

[Shaggy]

I remember when there was threats of sanctions from PRIME for me "Re-engaging" because they was killed within 30 seconds or something and they started QQing and crying sorta the same way. But instead PRIME came looking for fights instead of roleplay

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[Wesker]

PvP itself, as in the act of shooting, not the reason of doing so, is ooRP

That's a negative, and will always be. PvP is part of RP, and as such unfair fights are not something that I am absolutely opposed to. In my case, by the way, this "shoot them with everything possible"-attitude only applies if ships are threatening the Imperial Home systems, and from PRIMEs PoV, the ship that refused to turn away multiple times was a perceived threat, ergo they shot it with everything they had.

I'd like to add that I'm not in PRIME, but this "PvP is not a part of RP and should therefore follow the netiquette rules"-attitude really should stay in Conn.

Yea there are some times where you will pile things on other people as necessary to do whatever it is you where doing.

But then again you should consider a situation like a 5v1 oorply as well. Snubs wise. 2v1 or 3v1s are better than piling all 5 on 1 person. Speaking Inrply and oorply you shouldnt need 5 figthers to kill a Laz

Spoiler

<3 Laz dont mean to be rude

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[Char Aznable]

But then again you should consider a situation like a 5v1 oorply as well.

If you want to, you can, but you are not obliged to. As I mentioned above, I usually do, but in an RP environment, there is no reason to do so.

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#notmyfrankfurt

[Traxit]

Did I claim PvP isn't part of RP? No. You even quoted my lines which specifically emphasize on what I meant.

"PvP is not a part of RP and should therefore follow the netiquette rules"-attitude really should stay in Conn.

This etiquette is ooRP, it's a sign of respect. When no respect is shown, then neither there will be for you in the future.
This etiquette should not stay in conn and should be spread everywhere. If you can't give out fair fights, then don't expect the other side to show any either. It's really simple.
And do you want this kind of ooRP hatred to spiral around endlessly? I'm sure you don't. Especially you.

Do what you want, but people remember and react accordingly.

I am not targeting this exactly at Char, I'm also speaking to PRIME.

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[Laz]

Just gonna add one final thing from me.

I came to Kappa for RP. There was no one in Delta, Rho, Lost or Minor. There was one guy who I thought was a trader in Gamma so that was out of the window in terms of options. So I went to Kappa (Which btw was when there were only like 3 ships in there: Prime delta and 2 unknowns I think?).

And Kappa is now very big. So I had to search for some RP, which ended me up finding you outside Gammu. At which point I get told to **** off. Looking back I question why I went their in the first place. Seems pretty obvious now that I was going to get **** on. Just not on the scale I thought.

So... in short: I don't see a point RP'ing with you in the future if this is the treatment your going to provide (even if in restricted area. Take this hint actually try and you know... RP something other than protocol GTFO. )

Oh one last thing: This was the first time I have logged to RP with someone in about 3 week - a month. #FaithInDiscoveryRestored
I remember why I kept going on those breaks, seem like I had more fun then anyway.

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[Char Aznable]

If you're not targeting me specifically, this line here

Especially you.

is unecessary.

And no, it's not a sign of respect. It would be if this was a server that is about Esports or whatever, or if this was a tournament. It isn't. This is an RP server, and RP dictates that you should not break character to appease the player behind the other characters. As I said, I usually avoid big numbers advantages, but that's because I have an inRP reason to, and only secondarily because it's nice to the player. If I had no RP justification to keep the fight fair, I would not do it, and that's why I see nothing wrong with PRIMEs behaviour.

even if in restricted area.

That was RP. The area was restricted. You refused to leave and got shot. RP.

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#notmyfrankfurt

[Thyrzul]

Did I claim PvP isn't part of RP? No.

PvP itself, as in the act of shooting, not the reason of doing so, is ooRP.

I guess we can consider the "reason of sending five against one" inRP too. After all it's not the act of shooting itself, but a decision to do so with an overwhelming force to ensure victory and safety at least in one's own home.

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