Just delete the base and get it over with.

[monmarfori]

@"Czechmate" great example, you just forgott the no one logs BDM at all ^^

@Jeuge there was no call for help and O-11 aint Rheinland. Neither was it a station related to Rheinland.
Could also ask where Bretonia Navy / BHG etc..

I dunno, people asked for an example where lawful players siege in own house on unlawfuls - in Rheinland where Cologne is sieged now the same guy organizes sieges that leads a lawful faction that attempted a comeback just a couple of weeks ago and now barely log. Do with the fact what you want - it is what it is.

I'll give an example: if [GN] mass logs, does [FLG] also log? Yes. You're just stating a fallacy here.

[Lemon]

@"Czechmate" great example, you just forgott the no one logs BDM at all ^^

@Jeuge there was no call for help and O-11 aint Rheinland. Neither was it a station related to Rheinland.
Could also ask where Bretonia Navy / BHG etc..

I dunno, people asked for an example where lawful players siege in own house on unlawfuls - in Rheinland where Cologne is sieged now the same guy organizes sieges that leads a lawful faction that attempted a comeback just a couple of weeks ago and now barely log. Do with the fact what you want - it is what it is.

I'll give an example: if [GN] mass logs, does [FLG] also log? Yes. You're just stating a fallacy here.

Not sure you know what fallacy means - [FLG] fights [GN] all the time because of the surprisingly low player overlap, but if I declared siege as FLG in Gallia it'd be yet another example of what was asked for - lawful players sieging on unlawful in their own house, not some "fallacy"

[Nika]

I would be very much interested in seeing what lawfuls log unlawfuls to siege in their own backyard.

Well a lot of RHA are in BDM for example - you didn't see a single BDM come to shoot RHA in O-11. Let's see if they show up in Cologne but I doubt it. It's again RHA sieging and BDM a no-show.

Bold words from someone blissfully oblivious of BDM playerbase; besides, dealing with this scale of incrusions is exactly why your "best military in the game" exist. We'd maybe muster enough numbers combined but Buro can't do that alone, genius.

[Lachtraube]

@"Czechmate" great example, you just forgott the no one logs BDM at all ^^

@Jeuge there was no call for help and O-11 aint Rheinland. Neither was it a station related to Rheinland.
Could also ask where Bretonia Navy / BHG etc..

I dunno, people asked for an example where lawful players siege in own house on unlawfuls - in Rheinland where Cologne is sieged now the same guy organizes sieges that leads a lawful faction that attempted a comeback just a couple of weeks ago and now barely log. Do with the fact what you want - it is what it is.

Ye i know what you mean.

I have always found it problematic to join multiple factions, especially when they are against each other. Especially if you have a higher position in both.
But I myself could not think of a solution for this,

[Adam_Spire]

We have a long road ahead if we're going to make player bases viable.
Folks come to Discovery just for the ability to try and build one and have a place in the game to call their own.
Those same folks are starting to see Discovery forming the same problems as Crossfire has.

I hope this can be worked out. I honestly do.

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[Lemon]

We have a long road ahead if we're going to make player bases viable.
Folks come to Discovery just for the ability to try and build one and have a place in the game to call their own.
Those same folks are starting to see Discovery forming the same problems as Crossfire has.

I hope this can be worked out. I honestly do.

TBH Core 1 + 2 should be "testing" bases, easy to take down without demands as they don't require RP. Core 3+ be just transports rule wise so non-nomads and non-mortal enemies have to make a reasonable demand first before they siege.

That's on staff now - seems like a total no-brainer, there hasn't been a single valid point against it yet really. "They will siege on nomads or terrorists anyways" well yeah then they can be shot by anyone or have ship limitations.

"Look at all these 8 bases" the 3 stack was there for many years and did a lot of RP. And would be siegable without demand anyways on nomads still - no change at all if core 3+are classified as transports for declaration purposes.

[Steven.Hiller]

One of me friends words

"To be honest,I'm contemplating leaving this toxic game,

I have many other ways to waste my time available to me.
[1:46 PM]
I wish I could build bases in single player mode."

Server pop already so low -1 yet another player on server

its not the one player i worry about thats leaving its all his friends
to that go like our buddy left and if his not here why are we here?
in the end the same s@#^t will happen to us.

So why even bother to put in the effort why build story lines
why build bases in the first place its just gonna go poof any way
because some snot nose wet behind the ears kid needs to get his rocks off
and his crownie buddies that did not grow up yet.

Get a imagination at least there is more to freelancer then just blowing up POB's
how much effort did you put in to buy and kit players with new ships and make their
game experience better and show them a good time how many credits did you donate to
other players how many players did you help and assist to build stuff

But i guess you only know how to destroy and break down because putting in effort
for something good is beneath you.

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[Steven.Hiller]

I guess st.denis was also a base owner ?

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[Steven.Hiller]

I mean if you really like a drug addict that cant go through the week without destroying someones hard work some been
working on their bases and story lines and game play for years

im sure i can pull a few friends together and flood the server with little target practise for you what 20 to 50 bases per system sound enough
for you i can sprout them like mushrooms
who can ever forget the
Frontiers United Cowden i can make you some more to help you with your withdrawel symptoms

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[Sally]

I wish I could build bases in single player mode."

You can, I encourage you and any other BOP to learn how.

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"I suppose many people will continue moving towards careless computing, because there's a sucker born every minute." - RMS