Salvager is now a Gunboat

[Rudo]

well - currently it was a transport....

and we do have an example of a gunboat that is meant to be a transport, too - and thats the zoner GB.

i must say, i m a bit disappointed that it cannot stay a transport, cause i don t think its unbalanced as it is - but if it becomes a real gunboat, .... it does become a "real" gunboat - not a very good one though - its still a pile of junk from a non military faction.

Going to present a scenario here:

1) Kusari is now openly attacking Junkers in Bretonia and in the Taus.
2) The Salvager is rebalanced with gunboat power. There are MANY Salvagers out there.
3) Independent Junkers become eager to test out their new toy. There is now a house that is cherry red to them in RP.


I don't see this going well.

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[Monk]

to be bluntly honest...making it a GB is just a big admission to what a huge PvP fartfest Disco is becoming in some places.

[AJBeast]

to be bluntly honest...making it a GB is just a big admission to what a huge PvP fartfest Disco is becoming in some places.

Exactly. Not to whine , but this combined with the suggested changes to the Zoner and Zoner Guard ID would make the Junkers the prime faction for powertraders and "2mil or dai" pirates. A torch I would not be pleased to carry.

And now I'm curious actually. The Salvager really isnt overpowered ( as evidenced by the ridiculous number of times I got blasted when the old bounty was up) , so I see no reason for it to be considered a gunboat.

Also , I agree with the majority of the opinions I've heard. Many of us consider the Salvager a Transport , and RP it as such. Changing it into a Gunboat all of a sudden would be a major slap in the face of its pilots.

[Darkard]

I use mine a a mining ship, I dont want its cargo nerfed. I dont even want it to be a Gunboat. Hell, I would be happy if the Guns got made transport turrets. So long as I can still mine/trade in it. As it is, it should be the Junker equivalant of the Mining ship. We dont even needa Gunboat since fighters and Bombers can deal with any problem we come across.

Where are all these people who say Junkers are not a combat faction now? Oh wait, they are keeping quiet since the Junker "Gunboat" is incediably easy prey, and now they dont need to attack it with Fighters/Bomber. They can crack out the Cruisers on it with immunity.

But whatever, So long as it can keep its cargo hold and the ability to mount Mining lasers. But there will be alot of Junker traders getting ganked by Caps now. Whoop-de-doo!

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[Rudo]

But whatever, So long as it can keep its cargo hold and the ability to mount Mining lasers. But there will be alot of Junker traders getting ganked by Caps now. Whoop-de-doo!

I guess this can be lived with.

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[.:Mongoose:.]

well - currently it was a transport....

and we do have an example of a gunboat that is meant to be a transport, too - and thats the zoner GB.

i must say, i m a bit disappointed that it cannot stay a transport, cause i don t think its unbalanced as it is - but if it becomes a real gunboat, .... it does become a "real" gunboat - not a very good one though - its still a pile of junk from a non military faction.

I have to say If it becomes a 'real' gunboat I will be non to pleased. I paid over 100 million credits on the salvager alone and numerous hours gaining my Junker Guard rep to enable me to fly the salvager and use it as a transport. It really appealed to me because of the info card and the fact it is only seen in Junker hands etc. If it is made into a pure gunboat can I have my 60 or 70 million credits back as GB cost about 40mil!! I dont want to use it for PVP or Pirating. I think it looks great and will be ruined if it just another GB.

Why is it being changed into a GB? Have people complained about it or something? Sure its got 6 class 8 mounts but only a transport shield and no CD

Keep it as is I say

[Benjamin]

Pretty sure the rules about caps not attacking transports is because big slow ships with transport shields die in seconds to caps?

So now that rule doesn't apply to this one transport?

It's a weird call. I'd say, leave it as a transport. If not, give it a GB shield and a CD so it can play with the other gunboats.

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[AJBeast]

It isnt gonna be "changed" into a Gunboat , its gonna be CONSIDERED a gunboat from now on. That hardly changes its funcionality and whatnot , just makes certain rules not apply anymore.

[Monk]

We, as of yet, have no explanation for this change in the rules. Anyone with this precious knowledge care to share? Is it b/c of the guns? If so, go ahead and knock em down a peg...I use barragers on mine anyway.

[Tenacity]

if that decision is final - i can of course fix the salvager...

but i m a bit at a loss why you guys decided that way. - being classified as a transport was perfeclty fine. - when its a gunboat now, i ll reduce cargo and boast its offense abilities.

Do NOT reduce it's cargo, that thing is my main trade ship now...

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