Bounty hunters....

[AJBeast]

I cant say I like the whole blanket-bounty thing. If it was on specific player factions or individuals I would be okay with it. But as it stands now , the entire concept transformed the Bounty Hunters into a sirius-wide police.

Also, 200-300k for a kill ? I spend more than that in a fight in ammo alone.

[schlurbi]

Hey, thanks for the snide flame.

How did someone become a criminal? Let's look at the means by whioch you acquired a reputation as a criminal - the missions, the killing, the robbing. You don't think there are consequences to those actions? You mean every criminal in game has to have a bounty on the forums before they can be hunted?
I think your desire for a consequence-free world for criminal characters is a little out of place in a roleplaying game involving aliens and intergalactic drug dealers.

Here's what I think actually happened - you got killed by a bounty hunter and you're not happy. Rather than have the good grace to role-play a response, you want to make playing a hunter so much more of a pain and harder than it is for you to play a criminal. You actually want to require people playing a certain character to spend time on the forums, writing down names and indulging in what sounds more like work than a fun hobby. How about we make criminals only able to attack members of lawful organisations who have actually have a bounty on them on the forums? Or maybe you can only pirate someone from a pre-approved list of viable piracy targets on the forums and for particular cargo and only on certain days? Sound fun? No? So why should it be like that for others?

Athenian, dont you see that you are saying the same everytime I have been posting something about the Bounty Hunters? No i have not been killed by a Bounty Hunter recently, because I killed them. I am generally annoyed by Bounty Hunters, because the only thing I see them doing is one thing: collecting Money in other words - PVP.

Not every Pirate decided to be one, do you think Rogues, Hackers, Outcasts, Mollies, Red Hessians are not able to make babies? That everyone just joins them, because they're unlawful. Some of them maybe grew up in their ranks. That doesnt make them unlawful.

No one gives a **** about the Blanket Bounty, it's all about shooting up the bad Boy. Someone even said the BHG arent interested in performing Bounty Hunting in Liberty. So what are they doing there if they dont want to work? Why am I still being shot up by Bounty Hunters who just say "Engaging"? This goes for Indies and Factions.

I just see no love with the Bounty, someone Posts about a Blanket Bounty. 250.000 Credits for each Unlawful in that House and done is the Excuse to shoot up every Unlawful on sight.

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[Athenian]

I cant say I like the whole blanket-bounty thing. If it was on specific player factions or individuals I would be okay with it. But as it stands now , the entire concept transformed the Bounty Hunters into a sirius-wide police.

Also, 200-300k for a kill ? I spend more than that in a fight in ammo alone.

It is on specific factions and individuals. Read them carefully. And it isn't Sirius wide.

Athenian, dont you see that you are saying the same everytime I have been posting something about the Bounty Hunters? No i have not been killed by a Bounty Hunter recently, because I killed them. I am generally annoyed by Bounty Hunters, because the only thing I see them doing is one thing: collecting Money in other words - PVP.

Not every Pirate decided to be one, do you think Rogues, Hackers, Outcasts, Mollies, Red Hessians are not able to make babies? That everyone just joins them, because they're unlawful. Some of them maybe grew up in their ranks. That doesnt make them unlawful.

No one gives a **** about the Blanket Bounty, it's all about shooting up the bad Boy. Someone even said the BHG arent interested in performing Bounty Hunting in Liberty. So what are they doing there if they dont want to work? Why am I still being shot up by Bounty Hunters who just say "Engaging"? This goes for Indies and Factions.

I just see no love with the Bounty, someone Posts about a Blanket Bounty. 250.000 Credits for each Unlawful in that House and done is the Excuse to shoot up every Unlawful on sight.

Yup I'm saying the same stuff cause I keep reading this nonsense. Killing for money is what the Bounty Hunters do. It's the factions raison d'etre. The ingame lore supports it. Even the "we don't arrest people, we kill them" is backed up by in-game rumours. Bounty Hunters kill people. That is it.

Not every pirate decided to be one? These are supposed to be criminal organisations. The ID card means membership of that organisation. If you want a character that was born on a Rogue base (and who wouldn't have a child there, considering the education system and playgrounds) then it can be part of the character's history.

If you have comments about our faction to make, do it in the feedback thread. I went to the trouble of making it. Least you could do is post there.

Alos. Read the forum bounty boards properly before you post this ill-informed stuff. And then complain to the police factions about how your rights are violated.

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[schlurbi]

It is on specific factions and individuals. Read them carefully. And it isn't Sirius wide.
Yup I'm saying the same stuff cause I keep reading this nonsense. Killing for money is what the Bounty Hunters do. It's the factions raison d'etre. The ingame lore supports it. Even the "we don't arrest people, we kill them" is backed up by in-game rumours. Bounty Hunters kill people. That is it.

Not every pirate decided to be one? These are supposed to be criminal organisations. The ID card means membership of that organisation. If you want a character that was born on a Rogue base (and who wouldn't have a child there, considering the education system and playgrounds) then it can be part of the character's history.

If you have comments about our faction to make, do it in the feedback thread. I went to the trouble of making it. Least you could do is post there.

Alos. Read the forum bounty boards properly before you post this ill-informed stuff. And then complain to the police factions about how your rights are violated.

So, if you meet a guy. Then you can ask him for his ID and you know he is breaking into peoples houses and robbing them?
Isnt even killing people unlawful? I mean, a Pirate sure is unlawful, but killing someone is worse.


But oh well, I'm just talking to a wall again.

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"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"

[Stoat]

Gloucester, this is a game, and a fairly limited one at that. It isn't meant to reflect the real world. It IS however, at its core, a space shoot'em'up game.


The following is aimed at ALL UNLAWFULS OUT THERE.

ALL hunters are going to appear like PvP whores because we CAN'T ARREST ANYONE! In two years here I've had a total of ZERO people who RP surrendering to me, following me to the nearest prison base and not playing that character again until there's an RP event to free him. Get the picture yet? It's simply not possible in this environment to do all the things we, or you, may like to do.

Bounty Hunters hunt bounties. The ONLY way we can do that in game is to get a little blue message. There is no "Player X fled from Player B message" available.

Next time you are worried about a Hunter, try surrendering to him for a change. In fact, surrender to ME. Give me something other than the usual crap I have to take from the ENDLESS stream of unlawfuls who like to insult me (in RP and out), refuse to engage in any other form of RP other than "me hate you, me kill you", and then bitch about the fact that Hunters hunt them.
Like Ath, I am sick to death of the endless complaints about hunters. We hunt. We kill because WE HAVE NO OTHER ROUTE WE CAN TAKE UNLESS YOU, THE FOLK WE HUNT, GIVE IT TO US!

This is a TWO WAY STREET. We'll RP with you if you don't try to run immediately. Either that, or GTFO of any system that contains a hunter you don't know will RP with you. We're there to be feared. We're there to cause you grief. Think about that before you decide that you might want to try getting into a little witty repartee with someone who is probably looking to kill you.

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[Athenian]

So, if you meet a guy. Then you can ask him for his ID and you know he is breaking into peoples houses and robbing them?

That's how law enforcement generally works. Usually just by checking someone's name ona database, a law enforcement official can find out all kinds of stuff about you.

Isnt even killing people unlawful? I mean, a Pirate sure is unlawful, but killing someone is worse.

Would you rather that if we caught a character, we chopped his hands off. Or how about, a hunter catches you, you go to Bastille?

But oh well, I'm just talking to a wall again.

And what Stoat said.

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[Aoyagi]

Hey, thanks for the snide flame.

How did someone become a criminal? Let's look at the means by whioch you acquired a reputation as a criminal - the missions, the killing, the robbing. You don't think there are consequences to those actions? You mean every criminal in game has to have a bounty on the forums before they can be hunted?
I think your desire for a consequence-free world for criminal characters is a little out of place in a roleplaying game involving aliens and intergalactic drug dealers.

Here's what I think actually happened - you got killed by a bounty hunter and you're not happy. Rather than have the good grace to role-play a response, you want to make playing a hunter so much more of a pain and harder than it is for you to play a criminal. You actually want to require people playing a certain character to spend time on the forums, writing down names and indulging in what sounds more like work than a fun hobby. How about we make criminals only able to attack members of lawful organisations who have actually have a bounty on them on the forums? Or maybe you can only pirate someone from a pre-approved list of viable piracy targets on the forums and for particular cargo and only on certain days? Sound fun? No? So why should it be like that for others?

What I said to him above. Check the employment office. Players generate the content and gameplay. They update it. This is a hobby, played by people in their free time.

You want people holding your hand and doing stuff for you, start forking out dough to play here.
You want a consequence-free game, play chess against yourself.

Yes, I got killed by a hunter -when I was doing RP- . Out of nothing he said something like "Defend yourself" or whatever that was... I don't care that I lost to BH bomber with two MRs, that's quite natural. I care about their crappy RP. (no offense, some of them play good)

Edit: Also, we could get thru this without insulting each other, right? I am really not interested in someone who'd hold my hand, thanks.

[schlurbi]

Well, ain't being my fault if certain people cant accept some negative Feedback.

I would be glad if Police and Bounty Hunters could put someone into Jail. I wouldnt mind being stuck in Bastille for 4 hours. But I guess it would be too much effort for the Admins.

Why doesnt that count as Bounty? Bring him to the Police. You can even do that in real life.

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"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"

[Agmen of Eladesor]

Well, ain't being my fault if certain people cant accept some negative Feedback.

I would be glad if Police and Bounty Hunters could put someone into Jail. I wouldnt mind being stuck in Bastille for 4 hours. But I guess it would be too much effort for the Admins.

Why doesnt that count as Bounty? Bring him to the Police. You can even do that in real life.

If you're going to post negative feedback - there's a thread for that. Go there - not here.

And again, it takes TWO people to RP here. I've typed in the RP comment before - surrender so you can go to jail - and the invariable response is to the effect of, you ain't taking me alive.

So as for what we can do in real life - can I go out and jump into my handy Manta that I keep parked in my backyard, take off into space, and go into the trade lanes? Not hardly - because we're playing a GAME. One with rules, and other good things, and most importantly, we're playing on an RP server.

Actually, one could almost make the point that criminals NOT surrendering to the bounty hunter is OoRP play, but that's also a part of the game mechanics.

Quite frankly, Gloucester, the comments you're making are ones that have been hashed around in the past. They are not serving any useful purpose other than to sound like a rant, not just beating a topic to death, but to keep stomping it into mincemeat.

Born a Rogue - cool, reform and become a hunter. Because otherwise you had to do some missions to GET that Rogue ID. Those missions involved breaking the law or killing lawfuls. Now, is that something to be proud of? Possibly, if that's your way of doing things, and that's cool. But...

And that's a BIG BUT...

There are consequences for your actions. You got your ID by killing lawfuls - so be prepared for lawfuls to come hunt you down. I would be perfectly HAPPY to go back to having to have individual bounties on people - all you have to do is convince absolutely EVERYONE to eliminate the /renameme command, go back to the old thing where you had to get a name change certificate, and oh, yeah, post your name change request on the forum, so that way the pirate can't easily change his name.

Don't see that happening, so blanket bounties being the next best substitute - since they were started because pirates were changing their nams - means to me, drop it, and accept that you're SUPPOSED to be a hunted man.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Xavier.Fierceshot]

I have no real problems with hunters at all... they add an element of excitement to the game. When I'm sitting around pirating someone and a hunter comes along, I usually try and book it out of there. Without hunters, all I would have to do is sit at a tradelane in an unowned system and pirate until I died of old age. The Liberty Navy forces, as an example, aren't going to be monitoring a system like Magellan for pirates. Maybe they do... but rarely. They have their own problems in their own systems. If there wasn't a blanket bounty, there would be no risk at all outside of House owned systems. I could pirate without consequence, and I'm sure traders would love that. :P Besides, hunters usually always put up good fights, and I've had my share of good RP moments with them. There just would be less risk! :laugh:

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