I agree Junkers should be able to have the pirate train. Especially seeing as they make it! I dont think the shire or lux liner is fitting for them though. But perhaps they should have acess to the prison liner.
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' Wrote:You never said a word about either ship, therefore, ipso facto, you're just trolling. Once again, everything you state is just your opinion. The Shire was allowed before, there was nothing wrong with using it. Do we have to get your opinion as to what qualifies as a Junker ship? No, just leave and let the question be answered as it stands.
I'm getting sick and tired of people hijacking a thread, there isn't a thing wrong with what I asked.
No you do not need anyones opinion on what a junker ship is. You just need to read. As the info card will state junker ship, or it is sold on a junker base.
Now as to it was allowed before is not an excuse now. If it was myself, and many other vets from 4.83 can claim I am using the pirate cruiser for my junker. WHY? because it was allowed before. New update means new rules. New update means new allowances, and new restrictions. Always has, and always will.
Now want to call me a troll? go right ahead, be called worse in real life at truck stops. Kids over internet to cowardly to face facts do not scare me. All i was trying to do is point out some idea's/ facts. I am sure now if an admin.mod told you same you would still freak out, and argue. Maybe whine your going to ragequit if you do not get your pixles back. Go right ahead then. Got a 7 year old that does same when she loses her favorite dolly, i am used to it.
' Wrote:No you do not need anyones opinion on what a junker ship is. You just need to read. As the info card will state junker ship, or it is sold on a junker base.
Now as to it was allowed before is not an excuse now. If it was myself, and many other vets from 4.83 can claim I am using the pirate cruiser for my junker. WHY? because it was allowed before. New update means new rules. New update means new allowances, and new restrictions. Always has, and always will.
Now want to call me a troll? go right ahead, be called worse in real life at truck stops. Kids over internet to cowardly to face facts do not scare me. All i was trying to do is point out some idea's/ facts. I am sure now if an admin.mod told you same you would still freak out, and argue. Maybe whine your going to ragequit if you do not get your pixles back. Go right ahead then. Got a 7 year old that does same when she loses her favorite dolly, i am used to it.
Sooo Have nice day!:cool:
Have you read my questions? I simply asked if I can continue to use my Shire and my Pirate Transport or if I should scrap them. In plain English, I have asked for a reason why they are no longer on the ID. If there is a practical reason for the change, not just your opinion, then I will have to accept it. I have not freaked out at all. I will make adjustments as I see fit. I just want clarification, too much to ask according to you.
You are a troll because what I have asked is not out of the bounds of what is reasonable to ask, however, you have come in and decided to give your unwarranted opinion and then carry on about what you think, not in a nice tone but in an arrogant tone.
Maybe you should go take care of your seven year old instead of worrying about silly old me, okay?
' Wrote:Before the new mod, the Junker ID allowed the use of transports with a cargo hold up to 4300. Now it's 3500, which brings a problem. I have two characters, one who uses a Pirate Train and the other who uses a Shire. What do I do with them? Scrap them since they are no longer allowed or is this possibly going to change in future?
My questions again, for anyone who bothered to actually look and READ. I know it's hard Warhawk, reading can be difficult for some.
No freaking out there I'm afraid, no rage quitting at all, just a perfectly acceptable asking of a question. Shock, horror, awe!!
[q]You can't judge my RP, nor do you have the power to describe all junker RP...[/q]
Actually, I can judge your rp. If we don't judge people's rp we end up with lolwut's running things. It's a fact of life and necesary whether you like it or not.
You are right, I don't have the power to describe all junker rp. But the role and lore is set in game and I'm going to go with it. If you want to play out rebuilding an old liner, you could use a slave liner for it. Then just roleplay that it started life as a luxliner. *shrug*
I just bought my Luxury Liner YESTERDAY for my Junker.
If you did that you really aren't paying attention because Junkers weren't allowed to use Luxury liners in 4.85 or 4.84 and you've been around longer than both.
' Wrote:The pirate train is sold on a Junker base. It's even sold in the guard system. Why sell a ship there if it's not to be used by Junkers?
The Shire was allowed beforehand and was a better fit than the Pilgrim. Each to their own. Still, can we have some clarification on the issue? Not some appeasement wannabe please. Thanks
I don't know about the shire, but I think the rest is just an oversight and will probably be corrected. I know most of the ID's were made from templates. The smuggler ID has a cargo limit but gives the exception for the pirate train. The Junker ID should as well. Also, the last time I looked at the Junker ID, Slave Liners were listed among the allowed ships so there is obviously an error in the ID that needs to be fixed. Please just be patient and give the devs a chance to look into it.
EDIT: as for the Pirate Transport, it got nerfed so it is now well within the cargo limit on the Junker ID anyway.
' Wrote:[q]You can't judge my RP, nor do you have the power to describe all junker RP...[/q]
Actually, I can judge your rp. If we don't judge people's rp we end up with lolwut's running things. It's a fact of life and necesary whether you like it or not.
You are right, I don't have the power to describe all junker rp. But the role and lore is set in game and I'm going to go with it. If you want to play out rebuilding an old liner, you could use a slave liner for it. Then just roleplay that it started life as a luxliner. *shrug*
Quote:Actually, I can judge your rp. If we don't judge people's rp we end up with lolwut's running things. It's a fact of life and necesary whether you like it or not.
You are right, I don't have the power to describe all junker rp. But the role and lore is set in game and I'm going to go with it. If you want to play out rebuilding an old liner, you could use a slave liner for it. Then just roleplay that it started life as a luxliner. *shrug*
No, you cant. In fact, only the Admins can. And even they do not now that SRP's are closed. Maybe if you're an official faction you think you can, but even then your power to try to dictate RP is very limited. You can't get everyone to conform, wether you like it or not.
Slave Liners are not fitting to it because it has an illegal flavor to it while the RP I'd be using it for would be entirely legal.
Quote:If you did that you really aren't paying attention because Junkers weren't allowed to use Luxury liners in 4.85 or 4.84 and you've been around longer than both.
No, I paid attention to Cannon when he said in one of the topics questioning what Liners were now that they're considered transports. Junkers can use transports and the cargo limit before the update was 4300.
That = Luxury Liner. Tottaly fantastic and I even found a SUPERB route to go with it that makes PROFIT as well as being able to RP.
That does not happen often which is why I jumped at the chance.
' Wrote:No, I paid attention to Cannon when he said in one of the topics questioning what Liners were now that they're considered transports. Junkers can use transports and the cargo limit before the update was 4300.
That does not happen often which is why I jumped at the chance.
Well if cannon said this(and not saying he did not) He has just made alot of IDs pointless,and went against what all the other admins have said in many sanction threads.
IDs state transports and Prison liner, or Slave liner and such. If liners were considered transports? why do alot of IDs state liners on top of transports? Hmmm?
Also why have i seen sanctions for liners being used by people who had IDs stating transports up to 4300?
Liners were considered liners, and transports were transports. Both seperate ship classes.
So has 4.86 now changed these ships to same class now?
I will stop here. I will PM several Admins and ask them, then post results.
Quote:Well if cannon said this(and not saying he did not) He has just made alot of IDs pointless,and went against what all the other admins have said in many sanction threads.
IDs state transports and Prison liner, or Slave liner and such. If liners were considered transports? why do alot of IDs state liners on top of transports? Hmmm?
Also why have i seen sanctions for liners being used by people who had IDs stating transports up to 4300?
Liners were considered liners, and transports were transports. Both seperate ship classes.
So has 4.86 now changed these ships to same class now?
I will stop here. I will PM several Admins and ask them, then post results.
Those sanctions are old, if you havent noticed we're in a new version. The ID's are old and have not been updated. In fact, a lot of things havent been. Notice that 2 systems to be included in the game are not in yet? It's because they're not done.
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