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Rheinland Military [RM] Feedback Thread
Akumabito
06-12-2008, 06:01 AM,
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' Wrote:Sheesh, give us a break here, we kinda all have real lives here. RM recruitment IS open, we have many, many applications coming in and we are quite active. No, we can't be there 24/7, we aren't a paid service and are forced to play. We play when we can, simple as that.

You asked for feedback. The other main houses, even bretonia seem to have more server presence than you seem to have, and your far more populated.

A major faction should be able to mount a presence that reflects a major faction, imho.


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Offline Zelot
06-12-2008, 06:58 AM,
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Hey Aku, this is feedback, which means you suggest something. "You need more memebers" or "your memebers need to be on more" is a suggestion or legitamate feedback, so why dont you go play in traffic.

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Akumabito
06-12-2008, 07:19 AM,
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' Wrote:Hey Aku, this is feedback, which means you suggest something. "You need more memebers" or "your memebers need to be on more" is a suggestion or legitamate feedback, so why dont you go play in traffic.

I assume you mean members and legitimate?

But thanks for saying I have a legit suggestion!
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Offline Jinx
06-12-2008, 09:56 AM,
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feedback: i don t like the ship policy of [RM]. even if you do make compromises, you haven t written them down in your acclamation to restrict the use of warships. - its a point blank refuse to allow them within RP. - but you allready received a PM when you installed that, so there is no more need to address it.



other than that. - rheinland is ... quite.... almost boring. what i miss is a concept in rheinland other than "we rule with an iron fist". - there is a lot of RP potential that is untouched - like the relationship to liberty, the wilds roaming in dresden and new berlin, one of the strongest pirate force of sirius ( hessians ) etc.



i haven t been around too much lately - but the days when there were major events against the corsairs appear over atm. its just a regular battle against some scattered pirates, but nothing that "serves a greater sheme" ( hard to explain what i really feel about.... i don t see the faction drift into a certain direction within the political enviroment of sirius. - they are standing still, stunned sort of. )



i d like to see more stories / stuff about what rheinland ( and other houses ) is up to. - what is their ambition other than fighting off pirates. - how will they affect the greater history of sirius. - power of factions may not only be the power to directly govern, but also to steer the whole faction into a direction you want it to get to. - we are very blessed with such a tight community - and a mod creator that reads and listens. - we CAN affect sirius which may be reflected each mod update. - its an opportunity that a faction like RM must not miss.



so the only critizism is the lack of future prospects and larger campaigns initiated and developed by the faction, - something "greater" than just fending off pirates ( and bounty hunters )


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Offline bluntpencil2001
06-12-2008, 10:12 AM,
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Whilst I'm not a huge fan of the religious aspect Rheinland has been given, that's a personal opinion.

I would suggest that the official greeting be changed from 'Guten Tag' to 'Heil Rheinhardt!' though.

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Offline Jinx
06-12-2008, 10:29 AM,
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that was a joke, - i hope. - anything in rheinland thats associated with nazi - germany would be detrimental to the gameplay. - microsoft set the german setting apart from a ww2 scenario. - the characters shown are not at all the obedient soldiers that just execute orders without any thoughts.



switching to anything like "heil" would have a negative impact. - i m biased though.. i don t like this side of germany much ( in terms of showing it publicly )... i don t think anyone "likes" it anyway....


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Offline bluntpencil2001
06-12-2008, 10:32 AM,
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' Wrote:that was a joke, - i hope. - anything in rheinland thats associated with nazi - germany would be detrimental to the gameplay. - microsoft set the german setting apart from a ww2 scenario. - the characters shown are not at all the obedient soldiers that just execute orders without any thoughts.



switching to anything like "heil" would have a negative impact. - i m biased though.. i don t like this side of germany much ( in terms of showing it publicly )... i don t think anyone "likes" it anyway....

Come on... the RM had a trend of naming pilots after WW2 Luftwaffe aces for a while and create a very dictatorial atmosphere. On purpose.

'Heil Rheinhardt' would be awesome.

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Offline Praetyre
06-12-2008, 11:52 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-12-2008, 12:00 PM by Praetyre.)
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My own harmonization theory of Rheinland (regarding the "screwed economy" vs "powerhouse" views) basically has Niemann as Wilhelm II (they even have reports of Rheinland having to pay reparations and taking loans from Liberty!), Pryde as Hindenburg and Rheinhardt as you-know-who.

Also, Jinx, have you ever actually roleplayed with the RM? They are actually even more fanatical than the Nazis, because they view their head of state as God, and are known as among the most disciplined and ordered militaries in Sirius. We hardly see any non-infested Rheinwehr officers in vanilla, and the whole infestation thing greatly complicates our ability to evaluate their loyalties, along with the limited sample size of defectors.

And Adrian is correct. A sizable chunk of RM character names, including my own and half of Adrian's defector, is taken from World War I or World War II Luftwaffe aces.

"Heil Rheinhardt" simply means "Hail Rheinhardt" in English, in any case. There's nothing strictly Nazi about it, unless you add the graphical ability to make a Roman salute. But, kind of a moot point, given Chapter 4.

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Offline Jinx
06-12-2008, 12:01 PM,
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no, i have not had a deep RP with rheinland, i gotto admit. - but i allways rather looked upon rheinland as being the era of the Weimar Republic ( between ww1 and ww2 ) with certain nationalistic tendencies, but also with strong resistances ( the various pirate groups - they originate in the middle ages sometimes and they are messed up there anyway ... but i allways thought of rheinland as NOT being nazi germany, which i usually considered a positive feature, cause it wouldn t reduce the nations to their very stereotypes )

as for the "heil, ... " stuff. i don t care where it orginates, but it associates nazis - and its usually ( in professional mmorpgs and rather anonymous internet games ) to "try" to keep such political tendencies out of the context.

just cause rheinland as a faction may or may not refer to ww2 germany, i wouldn t like to see an official faction named ( SturmStaffel with a [SS] tag ) ... or would you? - its a concern, biased from my pov. i know that the other nations are reduced to streotypes aswell, but the german stigma is more important than others in that context. - referring to liberty as the heart of liberal thoughts and capitalism of the 1930s is one thing, associating rheinland to a nation that brought the european jews to a near extinction viewing them as second class humans ( if humans at all ) is another. - its a different quality. and i would like to keep such thoughts out of a game, even if they might drag the roleplay further on.


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Offline Praetyre
06-12-2008, 12:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-12-2008, 12:08 PM by Praetyre.)
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I'd compare Rheinland, as depicted, to 1933-1938 Germany, rather than the Weimar Republic. Not quite at the stage of war, but past the stage of a peaceful, democratic government.

Some Neo-Nazi invader actually did try to start such an SS faction pre 500 mil days. He got booted quickly for slinging insults and swears towards Caylith, and probably for offensive names and symbols.

There's no policy of discrimination in Rheinland, as far as the material I've read goes. It's at least strongly implied Rheinland is gender equal (half of the Kriegsmarine is run by a woman, there was a female Kanzler, there has been at least one senior woman officer), and by far and by large Rheinland is relatively isolationist anyway, far from a "master race" or "extermination" notion.

Lighten up. Israel can enjoy "The Producers", a movie featuring a tap dancing effeminate Hitler singing "Springtime for Hitler" in a play penned by an ex Nazi to help finance the tax scheme of two Jewish media moguls.

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