The first impression you gave me was terrible. It was dureing the little spat you had with LPI regarding parking at Newark. With SFC|'s repeated policy of the time being "Just don't get involved". Although we did have to get involved, and the first time I actually saw you guys was whilst I was pointing heavy weapons in your general direction.
Although I wouldn't say I have -that- negative an impression anymore, it certainly isen't too positive. 80% of the time I see you your camping Newark, 15% of the time your camping somewhere else. And the other 5% of the time your fighting usually only 1 or 2 pirates with obviously overwhelming odds to your favour.
As to any more feedback, I've honestly not seen enough action from you in order to give any. Appart from the previously mentioned first encounter, of which I was flying a capital and thus never actually fired on you specifically, I've never fought along side you or against you myself. Although some members of SFC| have been commenting about some of your members PvP skills, or lack of in some cases.
well me and some faction members we saw this topic and wanted to see if we where wrong. so we tried to see for some RP. We closed a whole system. (cambridge) in this case. The Supreme logan and another one (sorry forgot the name) where there and guess what.. They instantly ran and docked on the nearest station. Not only that they logged off and relogged a character in new york. (another Judge character.) Not going tot say more.. but it was deeply disappointing for not only me but also for the others.
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I haven't had a whole lot of experience with The Judges... About the most RP I've had with any of you is a post on the IC| Bounty Board about you all getting paid.
But, the overall feel I get about your group is "we want to be the next Mandalorians or Reavers, we're better players than them, so we should be more important and popular than them", yet your skill levels in PvP are severely lacking.
Like Ash mentioned my only real encounter with your lads was during parking violation incident. You lads were told to leave multiple times, then After alot of BS OORP screaming from one of you, i killed 1 of you. The 3 remaining went even more OORP, and i killed another, then 2 more showed up(or same 2 with diff names) and shot at me, and i killed 3 more, and yet again more judges(or same again in new ships) showed up to shoot, and argue OORP at which time a huge furball insued, and i gave up, docked and logged off.
So all in all i seen no reason to like, or respect the judges. But i also have not seen them ever away from Newark staion.
I haven't had many bad interactions with the Judges honestly. I don't have any feelings one way or the other about them, but one-senior-member has cast them in a bit of a bad light for me
The first time was when I was on my merc a few months ago, and I saw some Judges at Newark. I went in and engaged with the bounty, and the one member docked(after taking hull damage) while the other afkdied.
A few minutes later the member logged onto their bomber, along with 3-4 other Judges (Don't have the screens anymore, don't know an exact number), and they hunted me down and engaged me, including the one that was technically pvpdead. After the engagement, none of the Judges said anything until I left the fight, calling me a coward for running away (even though I dropped 3 Judges and expected one that ran off to get his GB). I even mentioned to the member that he was pvpdead, but I got no response
A little bit ago (yesterday specificly) I was on another ship that had Judge in its name. I was doing some hunting, since it was a merc ship, and I found the same member I mentioned above. As soon as I was in range, he PM'd me about how Judge was protected. I ignored him and engaged as usual. After he died, he sent me another PM saying that the "violation will be reported". If you want screens of the interaction, I can give them, but it didn't help the Judge image with me.
On a lighter note, I'm seeing you guys less and less around Newark, which is good in my books
I dare to say that they are less around Newark because of Miffon-T and Creeper.
Anyway, I had an interesting interaction with your lot just yesterday. I was on my mercenary gunboat and jumped to Keplar, where I saw Logan and some other guy shooting up a Xeno. Obviously, I extended an offer of hiring me. Guess who were the first ones to ask my help.
You lot, who were getting your arseholes punched in by an unarmored roc bomber.
In the end I sided with the Xeno just to see what would happen and the result was, after Logan bit the bullet, that the xeno involved was a, quote, scaredycat because he was, quote, hiding behind a gunboat.
The gunboat, I remind, YOU were desperately trying to hire even while the battle was in your favor. It all ended, obviously, with a LABC and two more judges joining the fun, so I simply legged it (no idea what happened to the Xeno involved).
Funnily enough, while I was on my bomber merc, I actually had a LN indie PM me asking if I could shoot you guys while you were sitting next to Newark at the time. Twice, once from a snub, the other from a battleship. Could have been the same guy, but again, just think about that for a moment.
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I've seen the Judges sat on Newark fairly often during the course of my trade runs, but that's old ground and flogging a dead horse.
Most recently, the Judges have been involved in trying to set up links with Bowex. That means scampering around after Bowex transports in the Omegas and offering escort protection for our ships.
Offering those services to anyone is a good step, and gives you practical, viable ingame activity to focus on. What I could suggest is picking one faction at a time to work on, then concertedly attempt to improve relations with that one.
So don't sit on your laurels. Constantly have a mission or assignment that can keep you motivated. Don't fall back to the bad habit of just sitting around.
The only thing I will comment on is your background lore. As a lore buff, it does kind of grate - factions of this kind are best off 'recently founded', as opposed to being retconned into the timeline. By manipulating your background to 'fit' Discovery's history, you might think you're making a concerted effort at intergrating, but it could actually come across as the exact opposite.
I feel actually creating a PoB for Taunhauser Gate would probably give you quite a lot to do, as well. No doubt your fanclub would turn up soon enough to try and take it out.
(05-04-2013, 12:15 PM)Hasteric Wrote: Your Newark parking is still at "Farming faction activity by being semi-AFK" levels, however. If I were to do that on one of my official-faction-tagged ships, I'd be worried the faction activity wouldn't be counted because it looks an awful lot like AFKing*.
*) Ignoring those times Judges actually were away from keyboard, and got themselves blown up that way.
This is the only problem I have with judges.
Especially when I was on my LPI I had some real headache trying to RP with the Judges.
Part from that they all seem like fine people...
At least you guys seem to have improved a lot.
This is also some great advice:
(05-05-2013, 08:33 AM)jammi Wrote: The only thing I will comment on is your background lore. As a lore buff, it does kind of grate - factions of this kind are best off 'recently founded', as opposed to being retconned into the timeline. By manipulating your background to 'fit' Discovery's history, you might think you're making a concerted effort at intergrating, but it could actually come across as the exact opposite.
(05-05-2013, 06:21 AM)ryoken Wrote: Like Ash mentioned my only real encounter with your lads was during parking violation incident. You lads were told to leave multiple times, then After alot of BS OORP screaming from one of you, i killed 1 of you. The 3 remaining went even more OORP, and i killed another, then 2 more showed up(or same 2 with diff names) and shot at me, and i killed 3 more, and yet again more judges(or same again in new ships) showed up to shoot, and argue OORP at which time a huge furball insued, and i gave up, docked and logged off.
So all in all i seen no reason to like, or respect the judges. But i also have not seen them ever away from Newark staion.
Let me dispel the possible illusion that you may or may not live under. Each Judge has one name. He/she may have more than one ship but each one will have the same name. None of the Judges have shared ships.
Now to the incident in which you refer. Your recollection of that time is totally different to mine. I cannot remember any LPI shooting and killing 5 Judge ships (if i remember correctly you turned up in a Dread and proceeded to kill Starfliers with said Dread). If it was that instance you were referring to then the so called OORP BS was infact INRP as they were protesters and protesting at the 'New Law'.
That is all water under the bridge as it happened approx 12 months ago. Both sides involved did things that were wrong and it could have been resolved if both sides had 'talked' OORP.
It is amazing that we are never seen 'away' from Newark but we receive questions such as 'what are you doing in O-99' and such. It is as though we must explain why we are away from Newark. We are regularly 'seen' in Bretonia, Kusari, Taus and other spaces in between.
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