Rorry's Renegades |RR

[Veygaar]

Half of your top ten ships being gunboats is using them too much, especially since turret zoom was added.
I think you know very well just how ridiculously unbalanced turret zoomed gunboats are, and the ones trying to kill you know exactly how op they are.

As for other things...
Do you intend to SRP your current tech that you don't have on the aforeposted tech nerf?
and how was the corsair tech stolen.
Pls tell me you aren't just saying "i stole it".

If gunboats are OP, then the Cruiser's we're fighting are even more so. Half is fine, it may be more than most but it's perfectly fine, especially since the ships we fight are more than half the time of the same class or larger. Take a look at the note I gave describing why we find those ships useful at most times. And again, it's not the sole class ship we use at all, we keep a good balance of off classes. I don't think someone should be condoned for using a ship which the onlooker thinks is "OP." Instead they should talk to Devs. We've been using these ships long before zoom was around. And with the addition of zoom the balance has only slightly shifted. 2 good bombers can still take out Gunboats if they have some basic understanding of zoom and how to throw it off. |RR members practice this very thing against our own Gunboats.

And no, no SRP. If you'd like to see the role play for those vessels (which no longer even exist) take a look at the RP links, it's listed in there. And yes, we stole em, with a bit of MadV approval to back us. Though these ships no longer exist anyways to my knowledge. More RP than anything in-game, even before the nerf.

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[DarthBindo]

And no, no SRP. If you'd like to see the role play for those vessels (which no longer even exist) take a look at the RP links, it's listed in there. And yes, we stole em, with a bit of MadV approval to back us. Though these ships no longer exist anyways to my knowledge. More RP than anything in-game, even before the nerf.

i did take a look at the threads, and i saw the one labeled Corsair Tech theft Start, clicked through, read some more and then went (facedesk) for various reasons unknown that have nothing to do with the quality of roleplay.
EDIT: As for facing cruisers.....it's a vicious cycle, ya know?
jus' sayin.
Also, what's with the barring your guys from Bretonia? If anything, bret needs a little good pirate love far more than rheinland does, but i suppose that's an oorp consideration if anything.

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[Veygaar]

Just because a member cannot type perfect English does not mean the Role Play is horrible. (also the pursuit of the story may have been scrapped depending on which one you were looking at.)

Also, what's with the barring your guys from Bretonia? If anything, bret needs a little good pirate love far more than rheinland does, but i suppose that's an oorp consideration if anything.

It's mainly to refrain from creating a larger ZOI, and to focus our "small" piracy efforts into a small-ish area. As many have already expressed that our ZOI is large as is.

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[Pancakes]

Saying that |RR are bad because you can't fight them, and you don't want to see them official because of it, it quite retarded in my eyes. It's a pure "Q_Q", and I am sure if the tides were different, you'd scream all over this creation request that you want to see them official since they bring activity - don't be hypocrites please.

Leave their fighting skills aside, and the fact they massacre you. If [RM] don't have enough people/ships to counter 4 Gunboats, the problem isn't with |RR it's on the Rheinland lawful side.


Anyway, I see several problems with the technology nerfs you proposed. It's not about the RP, I am familiar with the RP behind each one of the requested tech pretty good, it's the combinations that can be made I have a problem with.

Slot 1: Faction Gear: Gallic Brigands (No nerf)
Slot 2: Civilian/Borderworlds Green Cell (No nerf)
Slot 3: Faction Allies: Outcasts (10% nerf)
Slot 4: Faction Allies: Council (10% nerf)
Slot 5: Faction Allies: Liberty Rogues (10% nerf) - I've been told no one gets 10% with their guns, if so set em for 25% nerf and ships at 10% if needed.
Slot 6: Faction Allies: Unioneres (25% nerf)
Slot 7: Faction Allies: Gallic Civi (25% nerf)
Slot 8: Faction Allies: Rheinland Civil (25% nerf)

Combining LR and Brigand tech, LR and Council tech, and Council and OC tech, can get very overpowered combinations that I think should be avoided.

However, that's not a "burning" issue, and can be dealt with at a much later date.

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[DarthBindo]

Just because a member cannot type perfect English does not mean the Role Play is horrible. (also the pursuit of the story may have been scrapped depending on which one you were looking at.)

Like I said, it wasn't the roleplay, and it's probably for the best that one got dropped, as it probably not going to accomplish what you wanted it to >.<

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[Veygaar]

Combining LR and Brigand tech, LR and Council tech, and Council and OC tech, can get very overpowered combinations that I think should be avoided.

Hmmm, well I can see what your saying... Didn't really think of mixing LR with Gallics (cept Council turrets on LR GB) but I can see some very overpowered Agma's coming out of that for sure... Like I said in the post, if LR guns need to be further nerfed, it's the ship's we're more concerned about, since that's what we were granted inRP. Not that much in terms of weapons.

FOR NOW SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE KEPT IN MIND
The tech/ID is not part of the official request. The request is for officialdom with the Generic IDs mentioned in the OP. - This is more for those Admins voting on the request more than anything.

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[Charos]

I wish you all the best )

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Remember our fallen, we are the Legion.

[Govedo13]

The tech/ID is not part of the official request. The request is for officialdom with the Generic IDs mentioned in the OP. - This is more for those Admins voting on the request more than anything.

Can we get the Faction request to reflect that? I am not trying to be a jerk or a nitpicker here, but now that anything approved in the request is automatically approved if it is a white cell or red cell, we need people to be very specific. I dont think you would do it, but with it listed the way it is, an argument could be made that we were approving the mollies to use any transport they wanting in the entire game. One wouldnt think that would happen, but one also wouldnt think that a gallic mining faction would try to obtain an Osiris that way. So we need to be doubly careful.

You should keep in mind that admins wanted from us to list all IDs/Tech that we would use before they vote, I dunno if this is changed now but I guess it is still on.
I also wish you luck- I saw a lot of improvement in RR in the past 2-3 months.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Veygaar]

You should keep in mind that admins wanted from us to list all IDs/Tech that we would use before they vote, I dunno if this is changed now but I guess it is still on.
I also wish you luck- I saw a lot of improvement in RR in the past 2-3 months.

Thanks, we do try. :ylove:

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[Pavel]

Can you explain this:





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To make it funnier, I was in shared DHC gunboat.