Pirate ID

[Tunicle]

Mr Cosa Nostra "Hello Mr Yakuza"
Mr Yakuza "Hello Mr Cosa nostra, do you mind if we move into Sicily, the competition will be good for us."
Mr Cosa Nostra "By all means Mr Yakuza we would love to share our profitable businesses."

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[larzac]

Mr Cosa Nostra "Hello Mr Yakuza"
Mr Yakuza "Hello Mr Cosa nostra, do you mind if we move into Scicily, the competition will be good for us."
Mr Cosa Nostra "By all means Mr Yakuza we would love to share our profitable businesses."

you are the best

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[Vredes]

Mr Cosa Nostra "Hello Mr Yakuza"
Mr Yakuza "Hello Mr Cosa nostra, do you mind if we move into Scicily, the competition will be good for us."
Mr Cosa Nostra "By all means Mr Yakuza we would love to share our profitable businesses."

YESSSSS I knew I could pirate Rogues with my Hacker gb, ty guys....

[Vredes]

You sarcasm is inappropriate as I am aware of the situation. And mafias are known to hire outsiders from time to time.

[Curios]

The most exciting part here is "rogues moving against pirate IDed indies as a united front while they are not united for an inch"

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[Leppy]

You sarcasm is inappropriate as I am aware of the situation. And mafias are known to hire outsiders from time to time.

There's a difference between hiring an outsider for a job or 2 (which Rogues, for example, still can do) and letting any and all outsiders who feel like it use your headquarters, which only has limited supplies, as a permanent home for attacking potential "clients" of theirs, not cutting them into the profit, and drawing even more attention from the police/army/navy/etc to the area. If an outsider wishes to gain all of the benefits of staging from their base, they would be forced to join the faction.

TL/DR: If you want to pirate in Liberty staging off of rogue or hacker bases, join the stupid faction! (And I mean use their ID. You don't necessarily need to join the official faction of course).

The most exciting part here is "rogues moving against pirate IDed indies as a united front while they are not united for an inch"

Except that back then, the official faction RP'd the Rogues as having moved towards more of an united front due to leaders taking charge and bringing the rogues together. So it actually made perfect sense with the RP that the banded (well more than before) together Rogues would push their competition/unwanted hanger-ons out the door.

[Curios]

The most exciting part here is "rogues moving against pirate IDed indies as a united front while they are not united for an inch"

Except that back then, the official faction RP'd the Rogues as having moved towards more of an united front due to leaders taking charge and bringing the rogues together. So it actually made perfect sense with the RP that the banded (well more than before) together Rogues would push their competition/unwanted hanger-ons out the door.

I was waiting for that part - the powergame behind this one-side driven 'changes' were spectacular, indeed. I'm still in 'woot' stance towards that loreshift, lol.

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[Leppy]

The most exciting part here is "rogues moving against pirate IDed indies as a united front while they are not united for an inch"

Except that back then, the official faction RP'd the Rogues as having moved towards more of an united front due to leaders taking charge and bringing the rogues together. So it actually made perfect sense with the RP that the banded (well more than before) together Rogues would push their competition/unwanted hanger-ons out the door.

I was waiting for that part - the powergame behind this one-side driven 'changes' were spectacular, indeed. I'm still in 'woot' stance towards that loreshift, lol.

It's no more powergaming than say the Lib gov claiming Magellan and enforcing its house laws there. It isn't exactly vanilla lore, but it is an extension of it. Official factions are allowed to forward their NPC faction's lore (as far as the admins allow) to a reasonable extent.

And of course it is one-sided. Who were the Rogues supposed to work this out with? Every single pirate ID'd player on the server? There is no group that represents pirate ID'd players inRP. They went to the admins and had it approved though, so I'd say that it's kind of a kosher thing since they agreed with the idea.

[Sath]

Having a pirate ID irks so many peoples' eyes that not only all the lawfuls and corporations, but also the unlawfuls hunt you down. To the extent that they ally with lawfuls <insert Rogue allying with LSF scenery here> to take you down, though you are, more or less, one of their kind. It can be put down as either "Skype friends" or "broken lore"

[Curios]

It is a problem of people mistaking NPC faction lore and Player faction lore. Those are not equal - what official faction is doing is not actually represents the NPC faction development on the field.

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