Gas Miners Guild

[Shinju]

Aren't you supposed to 'fuel' Sirius with H-Fuel, He-3, Plutonium and Alien Organisms only? I mean, you shouldn't own base too far from your ZoI and shouldn't be interested in other items like ore and so...

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[Oldum]

@Shinju actually has a point there, even though GMG is a big thing, it shouldn't really be involved in trade hubs, as they should be busy bringing fuekl to every single station in Sirius.

Leave that to trade factions , as that is their main profile.

[Stoner_Steve]

@Shinju actually has a point there, even though GMG is a big thing, it shouldn't really be involved in trade hubs, as they should be busy bringing fuekl to every single station in Sirius.

Leave that to trade factions , as that is their main profile.

Bringing fuel to every station is a form of trade is it not? Having a trade hub in Liberty distributing H-Fuel (or what ever else the GMG gets their hands on) is a sound economical decision. Keep in mind the only reason Liberty keeps relations with Kusari is to keep the access to the fuel. With new Jump Hole routes able to by-pass Kusari proper I think the station being a fueling depot would be within the Liberty Republics best interest.

[Shinju]

@Shinju actually has a point there, even though GMG is a big thing, it shouldn't really be involved in trade hubs, as they should be busy bringing fuekl to every single station in Sirius.

Leave that to trade factions , as that is their main profile.

Bringing fuel to every station is a form of trade is it not? Having a trade hub in Liberty distributing H-Fuel (or what ever else the GMG gets their hands on) is a sound economical decision. Keep in mind the only reason Liberty keeps relations with Kusari is to keep the access to the fuel. With new Jump Hole routes able to by-pass Kusari proper I think the station being a fueling depot would be within the Liberty Republics best interest.

Also GMG has deals with Kishiro about export of H-Fuel, Samura moves its own H-Fuel.

And I doubt they will move and store H-Fuel there, but store Platinum Ore instead. It's too far from their ZoI and pure nonsense.

It's like I dunno... Bowex making PoB in Kusari or Rheinland... Stick to your ZoI please. Also GMG has a deal with DSE, so really no need for PoB there.

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"No step on Snek..."

my english is my english!

[Stoner_Steve]

Also GMG has deals with Kishiro about export of H-Fuel, Samura moves its own H-Fuel.

And I doubt they will move and store H-Fuel there, but store Platinum Ore instead. It's too far from their ZoI and pure nonsense.

It's like I dunno... Bowex making PoB in Kusari or Rheinland... Stick to your ZoI please. Also GMG has a deal with DSE, so really no need for PoB there.

Funny, I didn't realize that once a Company makes a deal it never seeks out more active suppliers, including themselves

Face it, Kishiro and Samura aren't around enough, GMG may as well expand their operations, and while you claim its pure nonsense is it any more nonsense than DSE getting a mining bonus?

The GMG are trying a new direction, one that hopefully will increase their in game activity, and I welcome it

[Shinju]

Also GMG has deals with Kishiro about export of H-Fuel, Samura moves its own H-Fuel.

And I doubt they will move and store H-Fuel there, but store Platinum Ore instead. It's too far from their ZoI and pure nonsense.

It's like I dunno... Bowex making PoB in Kusari or Rheinland... Stick to your ZoI please. Also GMG has a deal with DSE, so really no need for PoB there.

Funny, I didn't realize that once a Company makes a deal it never seeks out more active suppliers, including themselves

Face it, Kishiro and Samura aren't around enough, GMG may as well expand their operations, and while you claim its pure nonsense is it any more nonsense than DSE getting a mining bonus?

The GMG are trying a new direction, one that hopefully will increase their in game activity, and I welcome it

Sorry, but if I am aware, then large Companies have bases in their ZoI. I don't need to face it because I used to lead GMG| and I know much more about GMG, lore and stuff than current leadership. Yes it may be harsh but it's kinda true.

DSE and mining bonus?

DSE is moving stuff, building ships, mining
Samura is moving stuff, building ships, mining
Daumann is moving stuff, building ships, mining
BMM is moving stuff, building ships, mining. So please tell me where is your 'nonsense'

Trying a new direction in what... Storing ore? Storing H-Fuel on base which is like 10 systems far from their ZoI?

Tell me some Company which has bases out of their ZoI and I will approve it.

but our ID states we can attack and defend where we own a station or base. Thus if we own a station in Alberta we can and is seen as our ZOI (within 20k around the base prime example.

xD What? Since when do you have a ZoI around your base outside of your current ZoI, ie: Alberta.

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"No step on Snek..."

my english is my english!

[Stoner_Steve]

Sorry, but if I am aware, then large Companies have bases in their ZoI. I don't need to face it because I used to lead GMG| and I know much more about GMG, lore and stuff than current leadership. Yes it may be harsh but it's kinda true.

No one cares what you used to do,

DSE and mining bonus?

DSE is moving stuff, building ships, mining
Samura is moving stuff, building ships, mining
Daumann is moving stuff, building ships, mining
BMM is moving stuff, building ships, mining. So please tell me where is your 'nonsense'

Trying a new direction in what... Storing ore? Storing H-Fuel on base which is like 10 systems far from their ZoI?

Tell me some Company which has bases out of their ZoI and I will approve it.

My point was DSE didn't have the ability to mine p-scrap, they RP'ed their way to that point however, facing the same arguments and criticisms that you are throwing out right now.

There are several H-Fuel depots in other house systems that aren't owned by the GMG but are supplied by them, the GMG is now wanting to control all aspects of H-fuel via Vertical Integration

Just because everyone currently sticks to their own little ZOI doesn't mean that expansion to a monopoly status isn't well within RP.

[Mark_Brown]

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Sorry, but if I am aware, then large Companies have bases in their ZoI. I don't need to face it because I used to lead GMG| and I know much more about GMG, lore and stuff than current leadership. Yes it may be harsh but it's kinda true..

Yes while its true it was left in the dog house when I took over it, as much as I like your opinion do not question the current leadership or slander it, harsh but true no? You do have the right to give your opinion however you do not have the authority to ask for your approval:

Tell me some Company which has bases out of their ZoI and I will approve it.

We don't need your approval, and they're no rules against doing this in RP, just because it hasn't been done before doesn't mean it can't be done today.

Face it, Kishiro and Samura aren't around enough, GMG may as well expand their operations, and while you claim its pure nonsense is it any more nonsense than DSE getting a mining bonus?

The GMG are trying a new direction, one that hopefully will increase their in game activity, and I welcome it

Loving the postive attitude that's what's keeping GMG active. I guess that's why Shinju is all over this forum is because yes he/she used to run it.. One calls it a biased judgement... No we don't need your approval, nore are we asking for it.

Further more this is our official status request for our faction, it has nothing to do with the fact we're buying and legally within the server rules and RP buying a station for our faction use. I'll answer further questions accordingly if they make sence with the current thread...

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[Mark_Brown]

GMG bid removed. Ontario is quite a far stretch from your territory.

Looks like a staff biased judgement here, as no rules are broken...

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[SpaceTime]

GMG bid removed. Ontario is quite a far stretch from your territory.

That was a very bad admin decision there. Except the concerning fact that the green team is interfering with the roleplay environment more and more the last time, this exact decision is actually... wrong.

Foreign entities are known to, you know, buy things in other countries or Houses or call it whatever you like. And I am sure Liberty is a House open in foreign investment so GMG buying a PoB there is totally in-Roleplay. The fact that it is not within the ZoI doesn't make sense. ZoI is about shooting and pirating, not conducting roleplay.

Subsequently I call @Alley to reverse her decision or provide sufficient explanations on how this warranted the admins to swoop over and interfere in the roleplay, retcon and alter it.