Fair warning

[Durandal]

Posted =/= actual ban.

When I post a sanction it's after I've gone in and spent time on the Desk doing what I said. So just because it was POSTED after the discussion, doesn't mean when he went through and actually banned people was at the same time. he did it before posting it.

What SHOULD have happened is after that discussion, he immediately reversed the ban. That wasn't done, and there was a delay.

His name shouldn't have been on the list at all if it was discussed three hours prior.

His name shouldn't have been on the list at all period, he's a dev doing his job. Or maybe was, you might've screwed yourselves out of that.

[Kauket]

or you know, solve all the issues by doing the whitelist suggestion and never argue with each other ever again

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[Durandal]

Automatically sanctioned due to the process *not run by a human*

That's not how this works. Danny didn't get banned by the system, the system picked it up and the admins chose to ban him. I think you're severely misunderstanding the situation here. There was no auto-ban involved.

[Ace Razgriz]

His name shouldn't have been on the list at all period, he's a dev doing his job

Maybe learn to actually communicate with the admin team when doing dev stuff then?

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[Yber]

People who have no idea about how bad the communication between the dev team and the admin team is should not comment here at all.

I was literally told 2 opposite storyline developments for RM when I started leading.

[Durandal]

or you know, solve all the issues by doing the whitelist suggestion and never argue with each other ever again

But that can't be done for REASONS CONRAD WILL NOT DISCUSS PUBLICLY, THE HORROR.

[Vendetta]

There's another thing. Development and Admin discussions should be a little more transparent without the need for privacy and fear of public opinion.

Guess what? People have opinions. You're the people they're going to look to if they don't agree with yours, because you're the people running the community/creating the mod. Don't fear the public.

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[Clavius]

What's the problem? If you trigger a anti cheat and get sanctioned/warned, just explain what happend and if it's just a missunderstanding no harm done.
No need to make unecessary drama, we have plenty of that already.

[Cælumaresh]

What's the problem? If you trigger a anti cheat and get sanctioned/warned, just explain what happend and if it's just a missunderstanding no harm done.
No need to make unecessary drama, we have plenty of that already.

This is all there is too it.

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[Arioch]

Exactly - It's a precaution. Either autoban by DSAM and/or we place in Bastille, we chat with the person who flagged the anti cheat, and then release if it's not something intentional/ACTUAL cheating. In this case, Danny was unbanned, just he wasn't unbanned right away which he should've been.

Had I been at home and not at work, I would've done it myself. All I can do is watch and see this being blown out of proportion, and causing a rift between Devs and Admins, all because we followed prochedure.

@Durandal You did a Dev strike because Admins didn't follow procedure with the banning of people (Which I agree was executed poorly, but thats a different discussion). Now you're pissed cause we FOLLOWED procedure that has been in place for years. We can't win with you.

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