' Wrote:I wasn't being personal Kurisho, it's my job to keep track of my members. Also, I expected a bit more respect and understanding from my 3rd in command, Thank you...
You can keep track of members. That is great.
You are being personal --- You can also stop questioning & doublting me. As a Japanese based character, insults like that are not thought of too kindly.
If I say Active, then it means Active. If I say so-so is here, then she is here. End of story.
Firstly...
Would you like me to post up in the forums that we are going to go blockade New Tokyo for a bit?
If that is the plan, then yes...in PM and private emails.
and just let everyone know we are doing so, shall i post up that? oh no we are underattack and need assistence, thats important, yes?
We are always under attack. How is this day ending with Y any different than the next day ending with y.
Oh and with me working with the other gc members, on skype with one detail or another, something that takes a second to sort out, on skype, but 6 hours waiting for you to post, because guess what, not everyone is on the same timezone.
Forums are not time zone sentive. You'all think Skype is great, guess what, I do have it for an Admin discussing. You know what Skype does?....You log on and IF your lucky, you get messages. Other wise the ****** program just sits there and acts like there are no new messages. Then sudden, you get flooded with 3 pages of stuff that is DAYS old.
Our main beef about Skype is that you , Kurian and a few others have hauled tail and use Skype for main GC commucation---Did any of you ever thought to make a post in the forums and tell the REST of the GC that 'from this point on, skype will be used instead of the fourms???' No. We are expected to figure out how to use ESP and read your minds or be left in the dark.
Oh and also, the fact i have given you 2 weeks to post and you posted on the last day, i would say 1 week is enough time, nevermind 2...
Lets address that issue. I make a post, Call it GC roll call.......and guess what....I get VERY VERY few replies to it. I get pretty much blown off. Someone else comes in amd makes a Roll Call and guess what..they get answers.
Another event: My fight group is in space. We see another GC logged on the players list. We goto the base where the GC, an Indie and another player are all floating in space, next to the space station. We hail them. No answer. We send them Private and public chats. They ignore us. This little group of 3 people are so busy and intent on RPing within themselves that they dont bother to pay attention. My Wingman gets a little tired of being ignored. It was ONLY after the shooting had started, did this 'rp group' bother to wake up and notice us.
--yeah---blown off again.
with you posting up for your sister, how do i know that your not doing it just because she is your sister?
Now your doubtling and insulting me again. This will end or you can go find your ship and we will settle this in Tau.
About that admin, i wont say the persons name, if said person wants to, said person will contact you, lets just say they noticed we didn't need the thread because i had created a new one.
What gave you the right to come in and deside that MY posts and threads need to be deleated. Once again, another slap in my face. Well, that is NOT their job. The Rollcall I set up and the messages showing all the efforts that I and my / our group have poured into the GC is now gone.
And if it just a case of simple clean up, then why isn' the this Admin cleaning up http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29591 and http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11879
The GC doesn't need two recruitment threads.
I heard of some political coruption and admin favortism stories about this forum--I did not believe any of it was until some people started screwing me around-----Whats next? Cargo and rep hacking my characters?
Taii, i have only ever met you once, now, did i ever insult you once? i dont think so... about the IF bit... well as i said, how can i tell? we are on different timezones, but 2 weeks is easily enough time to do a rollcall... but if you said you have deployment how can you be active ingame? sorry it just contradicts itself...
People, please. I don't want to see another authority scuffle like we have a while back between Saigo and Dab. That's only going to screw us up worse. First and foremost, this is a game.
Now, a few points I want to go across.
Quote:I have a UPCOMING Deployment. As in I have not left yet. BUT if you want to use that against me, cut another member from the Faction, do not be surprised when the numbers we are required to have fall below what the Admins will allow, and WE become a suspended Faction like several others, cause even with me being gone, I will still have a presence maintained for me. So you make a call, if you think I should be gone, then say so NOW, not LATER.
Now, I agree with this to a point. Thing is, I don't think anyone should ban/suspend people from a faction just because of inactivity. Just put them on an 'AFK' list and if they come back, they come back. If they don't, they don't.
What if someone has a medical emercency? Or their computer dies and they need to completely get a new one (happened to me)? When RL strikes, sometimes people have to go for an extended length of time, and don't announce it. Thing is, punishing people for something that isn't their fault is stupid, as is punishing them for not posting in a Roll call thread when they are clearly active.
I'm on my GC usually daily for some period of time. Interrogating traders, propagandizing the citizenry, or chatting with Xing. You know full well I'm active, all you need to do is ask me using one of the various methods of pesterment you have at your fingertips.
Point here is, Inactivity happens. And as a faction leader, punishing someone for being gone for how ever long, be it a day or a year is bad form. It's almost certianly not going to make them come back any faster.
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COMMUNICATIONS: regarding your Concern about our communication issues. We use Skype for minor things like acknowlaging an incoming KNF raid or going to intercept powertraders because it works in real time and we can simply type a single line. Wheras a forum PM would take longer to write, and by the time it is delivered and read, the battle would be long over.
HOWEVER, anything that involves the whole faction should always go on the discovery forums for all members to see, and so it is in the public record.
You say Skype lags horrifically for you? Well, then we can't really blame each other. It's either a problem with hardware or intrenet connection. Real-time communication benefits the faction as a whole, which is why we use it for the day-to-day information regarding our various activities. Maybe try xfire or msn or if you have steam and see if that works better.
Thing is, if it is an event preplanned like a major raid on New Tokyo, it should be posted on the forum so both sides can prepare their forces, have a nice slugfest, and generally enjoy the gameplay and RP. On the other hand, it if's an unplanned battle with random KNF or a piracy run into New Tokyo, or me spamming propaganda, it probably isn't a big enough deal to post in the forum when it's going to be long done when anyone reads it.
Quote:Our main beef about Skype is that you , Kurian and a few others have hauled tail and use Skype for main GC commucation---Did any of you ever thought to make a post in the forums and tell the REST of the GC that 'from this point on, skype will be used instead of the fourms???' No. We are expected to figure out how to use ESP and read your minds or be left in the dark
We, the GC, and indeed most of the factions on the server have ALWAYS used Skype, since long before I ever joined the server and probably before the GC player faction ever existed. It's just generally not considered a big deal...
Quote:My fight group is in space. We see another GC logged on the players list. We goto the base where the GC, an Indie and another player are all floating in space, next to the space station. We hail them. No answer. We send them Private and public chats. They ignore us. This little group of 3 people are so busy and intent on RPing within themselves that they dont bother to pay attention. My Wingman gets a little tired of being ignored. It was ONLY after the shooting had started, did this 'rp group' bother to wake up and notice us.
Now THIS I recall. While it's not that big a deal now as this occured months and months ago, it highlights a point.
First off, This is a video game. This is not real. It dosen't make sense to hold personal grudges or get angry over it. We play characters which are at the end of the day, figments of our imaginations, and we have said characters interact with one another. But beyond the characters, we are simply human beings infront of computer screens gaining entertainment through our imaginations portrayed into a virtual environment. Don't take it TOO seriously or personally.
If someone's ignoring you or not responding to you, they probably either 1: have a damn good reason for it, 2: are AFK, and 3: are OoRP players. When you ARE in character in this situation, just RP around it and/or be patient and wait for the character to return. As impolite as ignoring someone is, it is also impolite to try and barge into someone else's RP out of frustration of being ignored.
If they don't talk to you, they don't talk to you. Wait for them to respond or go look for someone else to play with.
And just because you aren't getting responses ingame or on the forums dosen't mean we somehow dislike you. I personally think you (the three of you) are great Roleplayers and your characters are well played, not to mention huggable and adorable. :ylove:
If you get responses and someone else dosen't, it's usually not a big deal. Don't get upset about it.
Quote:I wasn't being personal Kurisho, it's my job to keep track of my members. Also, I expected a bit more respect and understanding from my 3rd in command, Thank you...
You can keep track of members. That is great.
You are being personal --- You can also stop questioning & doublting me. As a Japanese based character, insults like that are not thought of too kindly.
Again, this is a game. A work of fiction and our collective imaginations. Having our characters hating each other in the game environment is one thing. Actually hating each other in real life isn't.
Just put aside all the faction stuff and game stuff for a minuite, think about the other person who is here for their own entertainment, and that we are controlling avatars that may or may not be based on personalities.
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Now, that hopefully taken care of. I have some suggestions and ideas for GC leadership which will best go into another thread once I get them written down.
For now, try to remember that it isn't the end of the world if this little faction in this little server flatlines. We, the players, are still here.
Quote:What gave you the right to come in and deside that MY posts and threads need to be deleated. Once again, another slap in my face.
/hugs for deleting posts
I would say, before you talk about that go into GC MD, and count YOUR messages where you can only see "...." "Message wiped"
Within the first 5 pages, there are 10 messages from you, only containing "..." Did you think we are unworthy reading them? Don't you like your own history here on Discovery? If that is the fact, you are a poor mind.
And i indeed think i have the right to request the deletion of them. If i would go and PM someone.
Same goes for Taii. You have 6 posts only containing "Message wiped". Not proud of what happened? I'm sure you remember what happened sometime ago. AND? You make a wrong decision. You earn something out of that. Not only the fact that you made a wrong decision, but perhaps that made you a bit more cunning.
How do we say here in Germany? "Aus Fehlern lernt man."(You learn from mistakes) You made a mistake, you got the blame for doing so if i remember right. Learn from your mistake!
Now i don't expect you to restore your "..." "Message wiped" posts. Just don't do such a thing again.
Or do you think i have the right to delete all my posts just because imight have a problem with a faction? And in doing such cutting away parts of the history of the faction. Which is very unfriendly towards said faction.
And on the forum thingy. We had some kind of forum. Almost none of us registered there. And we have announced it in game and such.
Quote:Now, I agree with this to a point. Thing is, I don't think anyone should ban/suspend people from a faction just because of inactivity. Just put them on an 'AFK' list and if they come back, they come back. If they don't, they don't.
Eh, i think i'm still waiting for getting such a INACTIV behind my chars in GC faction status. At least when i checked last. *goes checking* Still missing
Looking onto faction status reminds me onto something (to give this the shadow as if it would have something to do with RC):
You can take my trader CCIyaknowaht from this do-not-tax list. It does not exist anymore (Transformed into another char).
And why is my OC dessie on a trader list?
In a brilliant tactical movement, i charged backwards.
