7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes

[Kanzler Niemann]

I'm going to have an aneurysm. Idk if you're trolling or what Wasser, but that entire interaction was about freighters. Imagine not using TS/TZ on those.

Looks like a vhf in the video and images to me.

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[Loken]

I can't say this is ever something I've considered a problem and I really don't think it's necessary.

Let's just have more people using 4.00s until there are no other gun types I guess?

The nephthys and lhotse are a problem, but they are their own issue that needs to be resolved separately. The trade off for seven guns needs to be a lower power core, which they do not have. Greater burst damage in return for lower sustained damage.

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[Durandal]

It's a tech demo showcasing that HpWeapon mounts can fire 360 and are functionally identical to HpTurret, and so HpWeapon can be used on freighters to allow them to fire their weapons in their current arcs while replacing their HpTurret mounts with HpWeapon.

Anyway this whole thing happened because @Omicron and @Reeves decided to make some fun accusations about me being biased against the Xenos and Order for something I said two years ago about how XA- Nephs with Judgements and Black Widows roaming around Liberty would be overpowered, so the Neph would need to lose a gun if the Xenos were allowed to have them.

Since that is actually a double standard as the Sabre has gotten its 11.4k core back and a few people are flying full 2.00 Liches and Lhotses, this is the fair thing to do. And if this change were to happen tomorrow, I generally feel that nobody would notice and that the Earth would keep on spinning. I genuinely don't know why I work on this game sometimes. I've tried to be kind, informative, and patient in this thread. I'm supposed to be upscaling the Irezumi, Iris, adding Auxesia's guns to the game, and making a big, exciting balance post about changes to the BHG/Core shiplines. But, that isn't how I spent my day. Instead, I spent it here.

[Kanzler Niemann]

I can't say this is ever something I've considered a problem and I really don't think it's necessary.

Let's just have more people using 4.00s until there are no other gun types I guess?

The nephthys and lhotse are a problem, but they are their own issue that needs to be resolved separately. The trade off for seven guns needs to be a lower power core, which they do not have. Greater burst damage in return for lower sustained damage.

Yeah and then we implement a rule that you have to make a demand first on a VHF before you can attack a different hostile VHF.

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[Shiki]

yeah justin, it's the time you stop randomly removing fun from the game for no clear reason.

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[Durandal]

Reason given above.

[Kanzler Niemann]

Yeah, for 5 years nobody cared and played it, now suddenly omglol let's remove it.

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[Shiki]

You just said this

7 gun 2.00 loadouts were never intended to be a thing.

i can hardly call that reasoning. you say there was only one in vanilla so it was never intended (while it was intended by the fact of existing), while vanilla never had playable caps and transports, by the logic of things that never intended to be a thing, we remove them first? it's just fucking laughable.

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[Durandal]

Well, they weren't, but the reason this came up now:

Anyway this whole thing happened because @Omicron and @Reeves decided to make some fun accusations about me being biased against the Xenos and Order for something I said two years ago about how XA- Nephs with Judgements and Black Widows roaming around Liberty would be overpowered, so the Neph would need to lose a gun if the Xenos were allowed to have them.

Since that is actually a double standard as the Sabre has gotten its 11.4k core back and a few people are flying full 2.00 Liches and Lhotses, this is the fair thing to do. And if this change were to happen tomorrow, I generally feel that nobody would notice and that the Earth would keep on spinning. I genuinely don't know why I work on this game sometimes. I've tried to be kind, informative, and patient in this thread. I'm supposed to be upscaling the Irezumi, Iris, adding Auxesia's guns to the game, and making a big, exciting balance post about changes to the BHG/Core shiplines. But, that isn't how I spent my day. Instead, I spent it here.

[Omicron]

Maybe, just maybe, the focus of development should go towards what has been requested over something that upsets community and literally nobody - except you - wanted to change for many, many years?

I am not even using 2.00's and I think its unfair for everyone else. If it is the 2.00's guns that are the problem, RE-BALANCE THEM.

Also, good to know about the hardpoints showcase.

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