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Offline Couden
11-22-2023, 10:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-22-2023, 10:32 AM by Couden.)
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(11-22-2023, 10:02 AM)Kauket Wrote: What do you want me to do? Get the hand of god to swoop down onto their keyboard and slap them? I don't lead SCRA. If they want to downgrade their faction image, so be it, their choice. And I'm sure that people will not appreciate arbitrary punishments when they're not violating their ID. If you feel like an ID is wrong, file a report on it.

I lead SCRA and if you have a problem that there is a cap in Kansas - write it down in feedback thread or pm me. The only thing I regret is not enough coalition ships of smaller size because we can do this by our ID lines.

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Offline Karst
11-22-2023, 10:33 AM,
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(11-22-2023, 10:22 AM)Czechmate Wrote: That should go to vagrants/nomads not auxo - "related" is not enough to get a strong as line as that - the area of operation of Auxo is far too removed now, it was given because both were right next to Inverness. Easy fix by staff, PR is with them. You can request to get piracy line in systems with Auxo bases instead, Kansas and Vespucci make no sense now.

There's a deep sense of irony in someone who is white-knighting a Liberty defense of a neutral POB entirely outside of Liberty jurisdiction which does nothing for Liberty complaining about some other faction's interest in attacking it.

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Offline Saronsen
11-22-2023, 10:33 AM,
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(11-22-2023, 10:31 AM)Couden Wrote: I lead SCRA and if you have a problem that there is a cap in Kansas - write it down in feedback thread or pm me. The only thing I regret is not enough coalition ships of smaller size because we can do this by our ID lines.
just because you CAN do shit by your ID line doesnt mean you always should
its a wonder you havent had your lines ground into a pulp for how often you abuse them
Offline Lemon
11-22-2023, 10:33 AM,
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(11-22-2023, 10:26 AM)Darkstar_Spectre Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:22 AM)Czechmate Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:21 AM)Kauket Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:18 AM)Czechmate Wrote: That Auxo have still piracy lines in Kansas and Vespucci is an oversight after the system changes, PR sent.

Related to the alien gate for the former.
That should go to vagrants/nomads not auxo - "related" is not enough to get a strong as line as that - the area of operation of Auxo is far too removed now, it was given because both were right next to Inverness. Easy fix by staff, PR is with them. You can request to get piracy line in systems with Auxo bases instead, Kansas and Vespucci make no sense now.

why are you acting like you have any say in any of this stuff? seriously when did you get elected as ruler of discovery? did I sleep through the memo or what?

edit: furthermore if aux shouldn't be there why the hell should liberty be there in the first place?
It's a border world of house space
it's 5 jumps removed from inverness
Liberty literally just spent years in Kansas and Vespucci
Offline Lemon
11-22-2023, 10:36 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-22-2023, 10:39 AM by Lemon.)
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(11-22-2023, 10:33 AM)Karst Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:22 AM)Czechmate Wrote: That should go to vagrants/nomads not auxo - "related" is not enough to get a strong as line as that - the area of operation of Auxo is far too removed now, it was given because both were right next to Inverness. Easy fix by staff, PR is with them. You can request to get piracy line in systems with Auxo bases instead, Kansas and Vespucci make no sense now.

There's a deep sense of irony in someone who is white-knighting a Liberty defense of a neutral POB entirely outside of Liberty jurisdiction which does nothing for Liberty complaining about some other faction's interest in attacking it.
You might want to use basic logic about spheres of influence. Auxo ID has piracy line in Inverness, the ID is very strong as is, Kansas is 5 jumps removed from their bases now, them having a piracy line there is completely random and staff oversight that didn't adjust for new connections.

for liberty It's +1 Liberty house space jump and rules aside - off topic really very basic lore you might want to read on will tell you that the biggest conflict since the nomad and gallic wars was in Kansas and Vespucci, and was precisely about not letting hostiles fester there. You are mixing apples and oranges here though - the piracy line is a clear staff oversight all lore reasons aside, the Auxo IDs need to be fixed post patch.
Offline Couden
11-22-2023, 10:37 AM,
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(11-22-2023, 10:33 AM)Saronsen Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:31 AM)Couden Wrote: I lead SCRA and if you have a problem that there is a cap in Kansas - write it down in feedback thread or pm me. The only thing I regret is not enough coalition ships of smaller size because we can do this by our ID lines.
just because you CAN do shit by your ID line doesnt mean you always should
its a wonder you havent had your lines ground into a pulp for how often you abuse them

Besides Kansas when did you see last time SCRA capship outside indie cap zone?

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Offline Saronsen
11-22-2023, 10:38 AM,
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(11-22-2023, 10:36 AM)Czechmate Wrote: for liberty It's +1 Liberty house space jump and rules aside - off topic really very basic lore you might want to read on will tell you that the biggest conflict since the nomad and gallic wars was in Kansas and Vespucci, and was precisely about not letting hostiles fester there. You are mixing apples and oranges here though - the piracy line is a clear oversight all lore aside.
bro still thinks liberty is going to have a logistics line set up for capital ships to be screwing around in kansas shooting at petty pirates lmao
Offline Lemon
11-22-2023, 10:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-22-2023, 10:42 AM by Lemon.)
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(11-22-2023, 10:38 AM)Saronsen Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:36 AM)Czechmate Wrote: for liberty It's +1 Liberty house space jump and rules aside - off topic really very basic lore you might want to read on will tell you that the biggest conflict since the nomad and gallic wars was in Kansas and Vespucci, and was precisely about not letting hostiles fester there. You are mixing apples and oranges here though - the piracy line is a clear oversight all lore aside.
bro still thinks liberty is going to have a logistics line set up for capital ships to be screwing around in kansas shooting at petty pirates lmao
Literally shooting Insurgency Remnants, Zoner Warships, Coalition Warships, Technocracy Insurgency Arbiter and other caps and more. All teaming up, alongside reaver mercenaries also hostile to Liberty.
Offline Kauket
11-22-2023, 10:42 AM,
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(11-22-2023, 10:36 AM)Czechmate Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:33 AM)Karst Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:22 AM)Czechmate Wrote: That should go to vagrants/nomads not auxo - "related" is not enough to get a strong as line as that - the area of operation of Auxo is far too removed now, it was given because both were right next to Inverness. Easy fix by staff, PR is with them. You can request to get piracy line in systems with Auxo bases instead, Kansas and Vespucci make no sense now.

There's a deep sense of irony in someone who is white-knighting a Liberty defense of a neutral POB entirely outside of Liberty jurisdiction which does nothing for Liberty complaining about some other faction's interest in attacking it.
You might want to use basic logic about spheres of influence. Auxo ID has piracy line in Inverness, the ID is very strong as is, Kansas is 5 jumps removed from their bases now, them having a piracy line there is completely random and staff oversight that didn't adjust for new connections.

for liberty It's +1 Liberty house space jump and rules aside - off topic really very basic lore you might want to read on will tell you that the biggest conflict since the nomad and gallic wars was in Kansas and Vespucci, and was precisely about not letting hostiles fester there. You are mixing apples and oranges here though - the piracy line is a clear staff oversight all lore reasons aside, the Auxo IDs need to be fixed post patch.
The piracy line is related to enforcing the alien gate's sanctity remaining clear - and Vespucci line was added before because at the time the regulations covered that system too. You're making assumptions of things you do not know. The ID's fine, Vespucci line may be redundant as the Inverness connection is gone, which kind of sucks for the gameplay for smuggling.

This is going off-topic. Open a new topic you want to raise complaints about IDs.
Offline Lemon
11-22-2023, 10:44 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-22-2023, 10:49 AM by Lemon.)
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(11-22-2023, 10:42 AM)Kauket Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:36 AM)Czechmate Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:33 AM)Karst Wrote:
(11-22-2023, 10:22 AM)Czechmate Wrote: That should go to vagrants/nomads not auxo - "related" is not enough to get a strong as line as that - the area of operation of Auxo is far too removed now, it was given because both were right next to Inverness. Easy fix by staff, PR is with them. You can request to get piracy line in systems with Auxo bases instead, Kansas and Vespucci make no sense now.

There's a deep sense of irony in someone who is white-knighting a Liberty defense of a neutral POB entirely outside of Liberty jurisdiction which does nothing for Liberty complaining about some other faction's interest in attacking it.
You might want to use basic logic about spheres of influence. Auxo ID has piracy line in Inverness, the ID is very strong as is, Kansas is 5 jumps removed from their bases now, them having a piracy line there is completely random and staff oversight that didn't adjust for new connections.

for liberty It's +1 Liberty house space jump and rules aside - off topic really very basic lore you might want to read on will tell you that the biggest conflict since the nomad and gallic wars was in Kansas and Vespucci, and was precisely about not letting hostiles fester there. You are mixing apples and oranges here though - the piracy line is a clear staff oversight all lore reasons aside, the Auxo IDs need to be fixed post patch.
The piracy line is related to enforcing the alien gate's sanctity remaining clear - and Vespucci line was added before because at the time the regulations covered that system too. You're making assumptions of things you do not know. The ID's fine, Vespucci line may be redundant as the Inverness connection is gone, which kind of sucks for the gameplay for smuggling.

This is going off-topic. Open a new topic you want to raise complaints about IDs.
Quote: enforcing the alien gate's sanctity remaining clear

You are way too far from your bases or any allied bases now to do in any way, blanket piracy line is way too powerful to be that far. That you used that oversight to siege PoBs is on staff for not updating the IDs, PR is sent and you are right that this is not the topic. If Orion gets parked there as the gate is so important then you can request the lines back, but they have to go now.


On topic, as I said, numbers still seem off/too easy for attackers
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