People's main problem with The Judges.

[St.Denis]

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I dare to say that they are less around Newark because of Miffon-T and Creeper.

I must admit I had a little chuckle to myself on reading your first line. I hate to deflate your ego slightly but the Judges viewed your escaped of coming from Colorado, cloaking your bomber once you got through the JH, spamming a couple of lines (which could have been aimed at anybody whilst you where cloaked), uncloaking next to the target and releasing Novas which killed the target and yourself as a small irritation. We did try to work out what the RP behind it was but gave up very quickly as there didn't seem to be any. It was put down to another Server lolwut. Your targets weren't just Judges and seem to happen every 2 hours. You became like an old joke about an Irish Kamikaze Pilot who had nth amount of successful missions.

Anyway, I had an interesting interaction with your lot just yesterday. I was on my mercenary gunboat and jumped to Keplar, where I saw Logan and some other guy shooting up a Xeno. Obviously, I extended an offer of hiring me. Guess who were the first ones to ask my help.

You lot, who were getting your arseholes punched in by an unarmored roc bomber.

In the end I sided with the Xeno just to see what would happen and the result was, after Logan bit the bullet, that the xeno involved was a, quote, scaredycat because he was, quote, hiding behind a gunboat.

The gunboat, I remind, YOU were desperately trying to hire even while the battle was in your favor. It all ended, obviously, with a LABC and two more judges joining the fun, so I simply legged it (no idea what happened to the Xeno involved).

I cannot comment on this part as I have no knowledge of the incident. I will have a talk with the other Judges later and find out what happened.

Funnily enough, while I was on my bomber merc, I actually had a LN indie PM me asking if I could shoot you guys while you were sitting next to Newark at the time. Twice, once from a snub, the other from a battleship. Could have been the same guy, but again, just think about that for a moment.

Interesting, but not very surprising, and seems indicative of the amount OORP events that happen on the Server. I would hope that you, as a veteran player and good RPer that you are, instantly turned him down and told him the errors of his ways.

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'I would like to be half as clever as some people like to believe they are'
Life is full of disappointments, it is how we handle them that helps to define us, as a person

[St.Denis]

I haven't had a whole lot of experience with The Judges... About the most RP I've had with any of you is a post on the IC| Bounty Board about you all getting paid.

But, the overall feel I get about your group is "we want to be the next Mandalorians or Reavers, we're better players than them, so we should be more important and popular than them", yet your skill levels in PvP are severely lacking.

Just my two cents.

The idea for collecting Bounties was started because we were told to interact more with other players other than talking. Our ID (being Freelancers) does not allow us to 'help' without getting paid. It was suggest many times after we posted for Officialdom that we should register on Bounty Boards. We have never wanted to be another Mandalorian or a Reaver like Group and so your statement that we think 'we are better players and should be more important and popular than them' is utterly and totally unfounded. If all we were interested in was collecting bounties then I am sure your Bounty Board would be full of requests from the Judges for payment.

If you want to check your BB then I am sure that you have only had to handle a handful of requests in the time that it has been set up. Most of them are probably from the same couple of Judges.

We have never tried/claimed to be expert PvPers. We know our limitations in fights. We have had some successes but if we are honest we must admit that we have lost more than we have won. But in the end we pick ourselves up and come back for more. Every setback we have, we analyse and try and work out where we went wrong and try improve.

In the 17 months I have been with the Judges I have seen Factions come and go. The Judges in that time have grown from the 5 or 6, when I joined, to the 20+ we have now. We have made mistakes, some of them were monumental, but hopefully we have improved (at least I would like to think so). We still have our 'haters' for one reason or another who go out of their way to make life hard but that is the way of the world.

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'I would like to be half as clever as some people like to believe they are'
Life is full of disappointments, it is how we handle them that helps to define us, as a person

[Fifty.]

Main problem? Not interacting with people.
Apart from the old parking adventure, I've never seen much from you. Either AFKing in space or simply ignoring other players in favour of your TS channel. As suggested, why not make your own server? You seem pretty self-sufficient.

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[SMGSterlin]

I haven't had a whole lot of experience with The Judges... About the most RP I've had with any of you is a post on the IC| Bounty Board about you all getting paid.

But, the overall feel I get about your group is "we want to be the next Mandalorians or Reavers, we're better players than them, so we should be more important and popular than them", yet your skill levels in PvP are severely lacking.

Just my two cents.

The idea for collecting Bounties was started because we were told to interact more with other players other than talking. Our ID (being Freelancers) does not allow us to 'help' without getting paid. It was suggest many times after we posted for Officialdom that we should register on Bounty Boards. We have never wanted to be another Mandalorian or a Reaver like Group and so your statement that we think 'we are better players and should be more important and popular than them' is utterly and totally unfounded. If all we were interested in was collecting bounties then I am sure your Bounty Board would be full of requests from the Judges for payment.

If you want to check your BB then I am sure that you have only had to handle a handful of requests in the time that it has been set up. Most of them are probably from the same couple of Judges.

We have never tried/claimed to be expert PvPers. We know our limitations in fights. We have had some successes but if we are honest we must admit that we have lost more than we have won. But in the end we pick ourselves up and come back for more. Every setback we have, we analyse and try and work out where we went wrong and try improve.

In the 17 months I have been with the Judges I have seen Factions come and go. The Judges in that time have grown from the 5 or 6, when I joined, to the 20+ we have now. We have made mistakes, some of them were monumental, but hopefully we have improved (at least I would like to think so). We still have our 'haters' for one reason or another who go out of their way to make life hard but that is the way of the world.

Like I said, that's the overall feel I get from your group. Whether it's true or not is a matter of opinion.

My statement isn't "utterly and totally unfounded", It's an inference made based on what I've seen and my opinion. Whether it's true or not is, again, a matter of opinion. Some will think it's true, some will not.

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[Redon]

Most has been said, I'll try to summarize my main problem in two pictures.

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I don't like the way you tried to retcon your way into Discovery lore. In general, I'm not a fan of factions adding new things that have no place in the current Discovery lore, instead of expanding on and providing activity for existing lore and factions. Refer to my signature for further complaints. Also, moving your backside workout from Newark to Conn or Waterloo does not count as variation in my book.

[Judge Logan]

Incorrect Redon. Your statement of
“And believe me, no one knows the rules better than a Judge.”


- Supreme Judge Logan,
while suggesting that bounties on Judges can't be claimed by freelancers

Is not what I said. What I did say was

8. Server Rule 6.10 states that player reputation and conduct must match player actions.
•Players are responsible for their own reputation status.
•Players must be at least neutral to their employer.
•Players must be hostile to the faction they are targeting in a bounty. This does not apply to assassination missions where the target is a single character.

From the bounty board rules. That third bullet in particular.

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[Exploration]

I dare to say that they are less around Newark because of Miffon-T and Creeper.



Anyway, I had an interesting interaction with your lot just yesterday. I was on my mercenary gunboat and jumped to Keplar, where I saw Logan and some other guy shooting up a Xeno. Obviously, I extended an offer of hiring me. Guess who were the first ones to ask my help.

You lot, who were getting your arseholes punched in by an unarmored roc bomber.

In the end I sided with the Xeno just to see what would happen and the result was, after Logan bit the bullet, that the xeno involved was a, quote, scaredycat because he was, quote, hiding behind a gunboat.

The gunboat, I remind, YOU were desperately trying to hire even while the battle was in your favor. It all ended, obviously, with a LABC and two more judges joining the fun, so I simply legged it (no idea what happened to the Xeno involved).




Funnily enough, while I was on my bomber merc, I actually had a LN indie PM me asking if I could shoot you guys while you were sitting next to Newark at the time. Twice, once from a snub, the other from a battleship. Could have been the same guy, but again, just think about that for a moment.

In response to the above, i was present for that little attack. Not at the start of course, but i was called to assist defend our people from a Gunboat and Bomber, one of which was you.
We did NOT request any support from your Gunboat and after the fight the parties involved promptly spilled trash talk all over the system channel- All you were doing here was creating a bad image on yourself. The bomber attacking us, interestingly enough had Armor Upgrade 8, and the LABC was called due to the fact two fighters after one of us was shot down, cant handle a gunboat and you know it. I dont see the problem with us calling for support when we needed it. However i really find it amusing the many lies i found in your post, trying to make yourself look better perhaps? -Just what i think.

And now, i have a few questions for you, What do you have against the Judges, Why you make a big deal over everything then post it in this thread, and why you take such interest in posting Negative comments, and never positive ones?.

Really, enlighten me, the statements you've posted DONT help and in my opinion i doubt they intended to be helpful, however do be aware of the fact, any SERIOUS points will be taken into consideration to improve the interaction you may have with the Judges.

[Haste]

while suggesting that bounties on Judges can't be claimed by freelancers

8. Server Rule 6.10 states that player reputation and conduct must match player actions.
•Players are responsible for their own reputation status.
•Players must be at least neutral to their employer.
•Players must be hostile to the faction they are targeting in a bounty. This does not apply to assassination missions where the target is a single character.

From the bounty board rules. That third bullet in particular.

Err. No. Freelancers are a bit of an oddity here. You can't just claim to be immune to bounties because you haven't aligned yourself to any faction with an actual reputation.

It's possible for anyone to have hostile reputation to Freelancers, I believe. Shoot the NPCs and depots (?) near Barrier Gate. I somehow doubt that's a necessity to shoot Freelancers, however, as.. Well, they're not a faction. They're independent.

Reavers are essentially Freelancers with slightly different tech. We've got full green Freelancer rep. That does not mean we can't shoot bountied groups of Freelancers.

If you feel I'm wrong, feel free to ask an Admin. I doubt they'll disagree.

[Judge Logan]

well me and some faction members we saw this topic and wanted to see if we where wrong. so we tried to see for some RP. We closed a whole system. (cambridge) in this case. The Supreme logan and another one (sorry forgot the name) where there and guess what.. They instantly ran and docked on the nearest station. Not only that they logged off and relogged a character in new york. (another Judge character.) Not going tot say more.. but it was deeply disappointing for not only me but also for the others.

Incorrect. A K"Hara Nomad battleship were detected in New London on a closing course. Senior Judge Yohance and myself left for Leeds. We found one there, we jumped to Cambridge. They followed. We went to the New London gate and one was camped out there. Another had followed out jump from Leeds and was closing from that hole. We felt the system was bottled up and so we docked at Cardiff. We did NOT simple dock but went through three systems to escape the task force sent to "RP" with us. K'Hara RP has only one result, and we did not wish to oblige them. Note: No PM or previous communicatiohn was set up for us from them. They just showed and closed. Yes we logged off and re-logged in NY. This is not a violation of anything. From our point of view this was organized harassment.

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[Yber]

People dock an eagle and undock a Liberty Dreadnought 4 systems away on the same RP character. I don't see what's wrong there.

Stuff aside, if you people think that 8 vs 1 isn't fair, just kill them back until they give up and dissapear. You'll get what you give.

Although they'll simply undock again and sit around a base.

Edit: Lust for further references.

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inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.