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SCRA Faction Feedback
Offline CzeReptile
12-29-2010, 08:27 PM,
#411
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Id like to say how surprised I was during your presence in Tau-23. What I saw in other systems must have been a dream, since there I enjoyed you to no end.
Especially the AI vessel.

Keep it up.

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Offline Dennis Jameson
12-30-2010, 01:14 AM,
#412
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Acting as the Sirius police seems to be a rather blatant waste of resources given that part of your faction writeup states that you are not able to contend with the powers that be of Sirius.

Feel free to shove your fingers into your ears at this point, as you always do.

Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici

10/6
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Lucas_Fernandez
12-30-2010, 01:47 AM,
#413
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Thank you for the feedback, Jameson. It makes me happy that you care about our faction and try to do everything to help us.
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Offline Dennis Jameson
12-30-2010, 01:55 AM,
#414
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I just want to reduce the amount of raw sewage that pours into Tau 23, as always. It's bad enough that the IMG and Colonials act as indies would, but add a couple of more guys in for no apparent reason and the place really starts to become foul.

But as I said before: The SCRA is impervious to feedback which does not involve copious amounts of sycophantic statements produced in a very blatant attempt at getting into the faction.

Perhaps if there was a rule which pretty much forced the admins to throw the book at a faction provided that they get enough negative feedback existed there would be more interest in this feedback thread, but as it stands now it does not really serve any purpose for the very reasons listed above.

Merry Christmas.

Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici

10/6
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Offline Shryke
12-30-2010, 02:10 AM,
#415
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From what I can gather, your gripe is that we shouldn't be in Tau-23?



I just want to mention that while someone may have feedback about the faction, it doesn't necessarily mean that we will act on it. Meaning, saying that we shouldn't be in Tau-23 just because you disagree with it is in my opinion not a valid reason.



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Offline Dennis Jameson
12-30-2010, 02:15 AM,
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You read the words, but fail to see their meaning... as is always the case. Fine, I'll assist you in the matter: It's tied in to the very hostile environment of Tau 23 on behalf of the rather vibrant vendetta the local wildlife seems to have towards the Outcasts, and the "MUST... WIN" attitude of the SCRA. Combine the two and you turn an already unpleasant place into... a more unpleasant place.

Not to mention that from an RP-purist perspective, you shouldn't even have the forces to faff around in every corner of Sirius at once.

Is that enough for you?

Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici

10/6
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Offline Shryke
12-30-2010, 03:20 AM,
#417
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As far as Tau-23 is concerned, I've spent plenty of time in that place to know that the bad behaviour is endemic on both sides. From my time as Cartel, as CR, and as a host of other characters that have spent time there, I have seen things that don't make anyone innocent. To say that our presence makes it a horrible place is quite simply, ridiculous. Then again, I'm sure if our guns were pointed in the other direction this concern of yours would be gone.

As far as the "MUST... WIN" attitude, as long as my boys are keeping things relatively fair I don't have a problem with them doing everything in their power to win. I'm certainly not going to tell them to lose one on purpose every once in a while just to make the other side feel better.

And for the third part, yes we are present in many places in Sirius. However, that doesn't mean we base ourselves in every place in Sirius. I dare say that aside from the few forces in Tau-23 everything is based out of and operates out of Omega-52.


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Offline Dennis Jameson
12-30-2010, 05:21 AM,
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... which would all be good and well were any of it true. But you are free to believe whatever you wish to believe.

Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici

10/6
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Offline arvg
12-30-2010, 10:13 AM,
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Jameson, get out of my feedback thread and come back when you have something useful to say.

Consider this my sticking my fingers in my ears and humming.

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Offline cmfalconer
12-30-2010, 04:24 PM,
#420
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' Wrote:I just want to reduce the amount of raw sewage that pours into Tau 23, as always. It's bad enough that the IMG and Colonials act as indies would, but add a couple of more guys in for no apparent reason and the place really starts to become foul.

But as I said before: The SCRA is impervious to feedback which does not involve copious amounts of sycophantic statements produced in a very blatant attempt at getting into the faction.

Perhaps if there was a rule which pretty much forced the admins to throw the book at a faction provided that they get enough negative feedback existed there would be more interest in this feedback thread, but as it stands now it does not really serve any purpose for the very reasons listed above.

Merry Christmas.

Allow me to address this in it's disparate parts.

Part 1: Actually, SCRA does have reason to be up in the Taus. It's even stated in the ID that we can hunt only militaries, lawful non-traders, or those carrying Cardamine or Slaves, both of which are hot-ticket items through Tau23. How we can be there will be addressed later in this response.

Part 2: But Dennis, we love sycophantic statements, in copious amounts...just like you do. :D j/k.

Part 3: That would be a hideously bad idea, with EVERYONE'S feedbacks exploding in attempts to get factions shut down. All of them, not just some. You know it as well as I do. While some factions, and even some individuals in factions, take criticism better or worse than others, we both know which way that road leads.

' Wrote:You read the words, but fail to see their meaning... as is always the case. Fine, I'll assist you in the matter: It's tied in to the very hostile environment of Tau 23 on behalf of the rather vibrant vendetta the local wildlife seems to have towards the Outcasts, and the "MUST... WIN" attitude of the SCRA. Combine the two and you turn an already unpleasant place into... a more unpleasant place.

Not to mention that from an RP-purist perspective, you shouldn't even have the forces to faff around in every corner of Sirius at once.

Is that enough for you?

Part 1a) Tau 23 sucks. It's too small and has too many individual factions with their own agendas there to be a worthwhile system. If it were, say, the size of Newcastle or even New York, it'd be different, but with the proximity of bases, jumpholes, and population centers (read: mining spots), it's a powder keg. I agree that adding more heat to an already tense situation isn't always a good thing, sometimes bringing a little fresh perspective isn't bad either.

Part 1b) Everyone has a must-win attitude. SCRA comes at Outcasts with three bombers v one gunboat, the next engagement will be three Sarrissas against three bombers, or whatever. It's escalation. Instead of griping about it, maybe BOTH SIDES (yes, SCRA too) can take a moment and see what's really going on. Or not.

Part 2) As promised. We may not have the forces to "faff around every corner of Sirius", you're right. But who's to say that we don't have different operations going on as part of our ongoing efforts in every corner of Sirius. Lately SCRA has been leaving the Rheinland and Omicron fronts in favor of cultivating relationships in the Taus (IMG) and lower Omegas (Phantoms), as well as shoring up supply lines (TAZ / IND). This means that the SCRA forces move about, focusing more in one area at times at the sacrifice of other areas.

This is how we "faff around".

' Wrote:... which would all be good and well were any of it true. But you are free to believe whatever you wish to believe.

I believe in Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny, and good will toward your fellow man. Mostly. :D

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