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Sarissa MkIII. WIP
Offline Barbarossa
05-21-2016, 08:24 PM,
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Thing is, I did not make the model to somehow FORCE it in to the mod, it was only an idea and something I wished to learn (modeling). Of course that does not mean that I do not want my model ingame, its so damn good looking, but I have noticed some does not think it fits well with the line.

Here is the problem: neither does the current sarissa, storta and ranseur. The only thing that actually resembles the border worlds fighters is their name. Now I am not saying that they MUST be replaced, I just want them (sarrisa and ranseur) to be tweaked a little.
The current Sarissa is huge even after the resize it recieved. It needs to be changed, and I have been waiting for the little birdie Swallow to make his own version of the Sarissa and I am 99% satisfied. I even met him in-game and asked him if its ok to make my own version, and he said yes. So I did.

I made it to actually be a medium battleship, I wanted it to be flat just like Storta, have the bridge/cockpit in the front just like Tridente and BWT, have the tower/communications tower to look like Ranseurs, Sarissas and Stortas, I wanted to form it like a spear, hance its name, I chose colors from both mass's snubs and the BW fighters (also if you look at it from the rear, it will kinda ressemble a dagger/scimitar). I get it, sarissa and ranseur are very long, and their long shape has become a norm. But what is really their design-philosophy?

To resize it to a Storta.... Well.. Many people like the current Storta, I like it and its a better destoyer. If I resize the whole ship then I have to resize the bay doors and the windows aswell.

Replace the current Ranseur to 'unify' it with my Sarissa? No way, Ranseur has got to be the most beautiful ship in the mod, even though it has got a very heavy ugly rear (which could need a change).

Make it a BC? Well thats a good idea, and I can agree with it. If not a BC or Sarissa replacement, then do not mind it at all, instead wait for Swallows sarissa. Also, I will never be done with it since I lack knowledge about certain softwares. So Im still waiting for Swalol to teach me a thing or two :3
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Offline Haste
05-21-2016, 08:28 PM,
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(05-21-2016, 02:05 PM)Mao Wrote: I'm against using Barb's model for OC capital ships... unless he changes the whole line. But then, what will happen with the sexy Ranseur? Swalol's modification of the Sarissa is enough, I'd say.

I'm seconding this. I think the current OC caps are neat save for some minor flaws like the engines on the Ranseur.

If people are pleading for replacements just because they dislike the current ships' PvP qualities they should probably just ask for changes to that specifically as the models shouldn't be prevent proper balancing whatsoever.
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Offline Swallow
05-21-2016, 08:29 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-21-2016, 08:32 PM by Swallow.)
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I think I have an idea for this all.

1). Make Trident BW tech, this will empty the GB slot.
2). Make GB, Cr, BS and Carrier (Dread) in one style. All from scratch and nice.

EDIT: In case people are really for something new, alongside with new snubline of OCs.
I am not really into OC tech that is why I have no idea on what people think about it.

EDIT 2: I'd gladly work with Barb on this one because I have no idea on what those ships should be. Besides we can split the work, for instance modelling / texturing and exporting.

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https://github.com/roalyr/GDTLancer
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Offline Haste
05-21-2016, 08:30 PM,
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B-B-But the Storta is like the sexiest cruiser in the entire game, and the other caps fit flawlessly into its line.

Just fix their minor flaws, honestly.

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Offline Swallow
05-21-2016, 08:33 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-21-2016, 08:33 PM by Swallow.)
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(05-21-2016, 08:30 PM)Haste Wrote: B-B-But the Storta is like the sexiest cruiser in the entire game, and the other caps fit flawlessly into its line.

Just fix their minor flaws, honestly.

That'll be the easiest way I suppose, which I like.

But the all-new hardcore way is just interesting.
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Offline Barbarossa
05-21-2016, 08:35 PM,
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(05-21-2016, 08:29 PM)Swallow Wrote: I think I have an idea for this all.

1). Make Trident BW tech, this will empty the GB slot.
2). Make GB, Cr, BS and Carrier (Dread) in one style. All from scratch and nice.

But I like the Tridente, why not make it a BC :C
Or wait, do you mean I should resize and make a GB?

That second point, I could try to make one of each

Otherwise I think we could make it a BC and give the Corsairs one aswell.
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Offline Mao
05-21-2016, 08:41 PM,
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(05-21-2016, 08:30 PM)Haste Wrote: B-B-But the Storta is like the sexiest cruiser in the entire game, and the other caps fit flawlessly into its line.

Just fix their minor flaws, honestly.

^ this

And use Barb's model for a different faction. Because the model itself is good looking.
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Offline Swallow
05-21-2016, 08:43 PM,
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No, you've got me wrong.
Here's the plan:

1) Give trident (GB) to BW civilian tech cell (replace current BW GB placeholder) (POSSIBLY it could be done to storta...Maybe, as an unlawful-generic BW cruiser).
2) Create a design for cap line.
3) Create GB, Cruiser, BS, Dread/Carrier (to replace the current models) according to the new design (to accomplish massdriver's snubline).
4) Profit.

FL MOD(EL)MAKING: TOOLS, RESOURCES, TUTORIALS AND MY SHIPS (OLD)

I am on discord: Roal-Yr#5994, I don't log on forum more than a few times a year.

I am not making ships for FL anymore, I am making my own space game instead:
https://github.com/roalyr/GDTLancer
https://roal-yr.itch.io/gdtlancer
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5HQB...cdH45LZgjj
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Offline Mao
05-21-2016, 08:46 PM,
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And what happens to Sarissa and Ranseur models that we have now?

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Offline Titan*
05-21-2016, 08:47 PM,
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Noooo! Don't change Ranseur, it is one of the best dreadnought models in the game
Also please dont create Carrier, they are useless
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