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Religion in Freelancer?
Offline Tenacity
03-26-2009, 06:01 PM,
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Just to clarify about the oracles - while we use religious terms and 'preaching', technically the oracles are not a religious group, they dont believe in spirits or supernatural power, only enlightenment (aka knowledge/learning) and peace.

The oracles were 'taught' the truths of sirius by the shrine itself, which is left over from the daam k'vosh civilization. They have learned a great deal about nomads, the k'vosh, and sirius itself - from long before humans arrived. They use this knowledge as their foundation for 'converting' the humans of sirius into a more peaceful society. Primarily, they fight against concepts of greed, powermongering, and violence.


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Offline beander2
03-26-2009, 06:05 PM,
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' Wrote:Well thats patriotic not nationalistic actually.

' Wrote:What's the difference?

Technically, patriotism is love for the institutions of one's state, while nationalism is love for one's nation, which is defined as cultural/ethnic community rooted in a particular territory. While the distinction is useful in certain contexts and for some analytical purposes, it's rather moot in others.

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Offline ... kur nubėgo?
03-26-2009, 07:47 PM,
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' Wrote:Technically, patriotism is love for the institutions of one's state, while nationalism is love for one's nation, which is defined as cultural/ethnic community rooted in a particular territory. While the distinction is useful in certain contexts and for some analytical purposes, it's rather moot in others.


Patriotism - is feeling. Like love to your culture, nation, culture. It's then you care about your culture, then you are practising its old ways. Then you care about its nature. And then you are proud to call yourself a part of that culture.

Nationalism well it stands on patriotism. But for more it is more political thinking. And perhaps a bit more radical. It touches few main points: ecology - you cant love your coutnry then you are contantly polluting it. Demography and migration: its very important to cut down emigration, and imigration into country. Very important point (I think the main idea) is that not natives should try adjust to forgeigners but foreigners should adapt to natives of that country (that means learning its language and more). Understanding that counntry isnt just a terriotry populated by people, but territory ant nation with its own culture which should be respected, and not be boiling pot of mixed cultures.

Well maybe I clearified a bit. Anyway, this is wrong topic to speak about this:)) I think we shouldnt do it right here.

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Offline Carlos_Benitez
03-26-2009, 07:52 PM,
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I run along with the idea that some Corsairs worship a small obscure pantheon of Gods, and religion therefore sometimes interferes with the Council of Elders and it's politics.
(The gods are a euphemism for the Admins.)

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Offline jimmy Patterson
03-26-2009, 10:23 PM,
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i figured the corsairs were more like spartans actually

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Offline Primus Avatar
03-27-2009, 12:23 AM,
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' Wrote:Primarily, they fight against concepts of greed, powermongering, and violence.

sorry, my mistake

thanks for clearing it up :)

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Offline Meiun
03-27-2009, 01:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2009, 01:19 AM by Meiun.)
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for myself:

To quoth the prophet;

Don't believe the devil
I don't believe his book
But the truth is not the same
Without the lies he made up

Don't believe in excess
Success is to give
Don't believe in riches
But you should see where I live
I...I believe in love

Don't believe in forced entry
Don't believe in rape
But every time she passes by
Wild thoughts escape
I don't believe in death row
Skid row or the gangs
Don't believe in the Uzi
It just went off in my hand
I...I believe in love

Don't believe in cocaine
Got a speed-ball in my head
I could cut and crack you open
Do you hear what I said
Don't believe them when they tell me
There ain't no cure
The rich stay healthy
The sick stay poor
I...I believe in love

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Offline Clarkie
03-27-2009, 01:14 AM,
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My own thoughts would be that they all grew out of it.
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Offline Kambei
03-27-2009, 01:22 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2009, 01:23 AM by Kambei.)
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' Wrote:i figured the corsairs were more like spartans actually

do you mean homosexual?:D

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Offline Ayem
03-27-2009, 02:28 AM,
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The Licht.von.Finsternis is a proselytizing, infected Rheinlander called Benedikt Emmerich in his battered old military ship. He preaches about the Light, and tries to get people involved with the Light and love and unity. Mainly he reads out of a tome I make up as I go along with a generic myth about the first hybrid, and his desire to bring all the humans into a state of unity via hybridization. Much of the tone is from the Lutherian bible, and the name Licht von Finsternis is from the part of Genesis where God brings "Light from Darkness".

I say "his", because I tossed a coin and it came up tails.

So there's one religious character.

Pato Dooley and Mag Folan are both Mollies, and are both god-fearing. The whole Molly=IRA point of view forgets, purposefully or not, that the IRA are a minority in Ireland. There are sympathisers, certainly, but not everyone in Ireland goes around planting bombs and shooting policemen. Same with the Mollies. As to Mollies not being Irish because they were Bretonian... In our history, the Irish were British by dint of the British Empire. Then they broke away (which was a long and drawn out affair with much political affray and civil unrest).

With regard to the claim that religion is not in Freelancer, we in the Current Era are constantly reviving old religions or borrowing them from other cultures. Why would that not be the case in Sirius? Colonists would bring their religions with them and practise, or simply remember the old days/past generations.

If the citizens of Sirius were ever to forget the fervour of faith, the SCRA would remind them of fanaticism in their worship of the Cult of Communism.

"Opiate of the masses", my eye..

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