Too many Indy Order Capships

[Tenacity]

Bombers make quick work of them. Most of them can't aim and don't realise that the Isis hurts friendlies.

I can aim just fine, and I still cant hit bombers =P

Solaris turrets have such a short range that they cannot shoot from one end of the carrier to the other. Primary turrets have too low a projectile speed to effectively hit any dodging bomber, other than maybe a barghest. Also consider that when trying to aim in turret view, if you're 1k away from the carrier, the carrier pilot's view is an extra 1k away from that due to camera distance, so it's like shooting at a target twice as far away from an odd angle.

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[Eppy]

Well, a rule that gave factions the ability to restrict capital ships was brought into discussion, but apparently the majority started screaming that it would take freedom away from the indies!

Power to the people, and power to the caps!

Actually, it was a very vocal minority.

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Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen

Which Dreadnought was that?

One of your nine.

[Tovig]

I'm all for restricting indie capital ships.
I am in the Order and I see so many lolwutter capital ships that I'm very sick of it. It's still unbelievable to me that Right 5 got shot down - it's the very depths of hypocrisy and human irrationality.

Anyways.
Yes, we should restrict the ships.

Also, I beg the pardon of whomever might be offended at this statement, but the BHG is also rife with lolwutting capital ships, perhaps even moreso than the Order. (Of course, this large amount of capital ships leads to great fights on both sides, but the amount of lolwutting leads to a bitter feeling afterward. It's a win-lose situation.)
And then again, there could be an application process that indies could go through to get capital ships. That would also be severely restricted, I imagine.

Indies should be able to have capital ships, though they they must prove themselves very worthy of it.
(i.e., in game roleplay with faction members, along with forum applications and what not.)

[I'm confident enough in my RP skills that I could work a way past said restrictions to keep my destroyer.]

Bump.;)

[Nathan]

well we earned these ships through hard trading and mining and there si no way i am letting a restriction stop me flying my carrier!

[Exile]

Leave restrictions up to the order| command I'd say. Who are we/you to say who has good Roleplay and can stay, and who doesnt?

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[Tommeh]

well that's a good Idea,player faction should made some tests for indie pilots who want to get caps.Not something uber hard,some solid RP it has to be shown.Maybe it will mean something.
And as Sprolf said,this is not just in Minor with Order indies spaming carriers.
It is also happening in Delta with Bounty Hunters spaming Battleships.
I remember once we took down 2 BH BS and one or 2 destroyers,and we were all happy for big victory,when from nowhere :wacko: 2 more BS come and kill us all.
So,I don't think it's only Order indies problem,they are everywhere.

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[Agmen of Eladesor]

So,I don't think it's only Order indies problem,they are everywhere.

This could quickly degenerate into an officiat faction versus indie thread. And I agree, Sprolf, there are some issues with bounty hunter indie caps as well. Just as there are also issues with Corsair indie caps.

Leading from RP is well and good ... until you start seeing all the '//' or even worse in system chat. Honestly, there are times when Delta is so darned full it makes New York look deserted. But the combat types tend to congregate where the action is, so what can you do?

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

Theres an admin decree sitting around here somewhere that is regarding something such as this that happened to the order, that no faction could control cap ship distribution, only in-char reprocussions can be made. Ive found RP ways to attack many people in my zoner before, perhaps you should try it?

Tenacity: The capital ship defenses still suck after my thread, (you know you remember it) and just face it like i have, This is an anti-capital ship community. You just have to accept that. Battle razor sucks, AND solaris sucks. The only thing that doesnt is flak.

Anyways
You CAN NOT punish all indie caps for a single wrongdoer, The day this happens, Is the day discovery dies.

[Tommeh]

hehe,In last few weeks Omicrons are the most popular part of Sirius.I played a lot in those weeks and I must say that there is no day that I play and that I don't see someone new,in Minor or Delta or Gamma.
I don't have anything against those indies as far as they have decent RP,or at least just have Captain: saying stuff and not whole ship.
But yesterday in Delta 3,4 keepers camed,none cap,just bombers and fighters,you can't imagine how many caps attacked them,from indie Corsairs dreads to Indie Order carriers,it was a freaking mess,they hit more each other then actually keepers.
There is not much sentences in system chat with // from Order indies carriers,problem is that they are talking between each other like they are flying fighters.no captain no crew,they just talking like they are on street or somewhere.

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[n00bl3t]

True, but there has to be some way to stop oorp capship idiocy. Please, it needez to be stopped. It hurts my eyes!

:mellow:

Better yet - make a capital ship so they can fight other capital ships instead of only finding bombers and fighters to interact with.

/signed. (Andy proposed this some time ago and it allows everyone to have fun.)

Indies should be able to have capital ships, though they they must prove themselves very worthy of it.

Factions should do the same, if that is the case. (You can submit all your applications to me.)

lololololololol OMGWTFBBQ restrict teh indies! Tehy been ruin' mah gamplay and crashing teh SeVeR! Tehy gankz mah fighter every day, hit my brother and said naughty things to mah sister/mom. They needz to be stopped!

Only us offizalz fachuns should haves them... hahaha adminz pleeaze let us killz them fur not asking us polietly if they can roleplayz? Aye am ze admiral of teh server and choozez who gets them!

/sarcams

Just a recap of these threads till now.

Lead by example and maybe the situation will improve.

Noted.:lol:

(Someone had to say it sooner or later.)

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.