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Blodo · 11-30-2009, 07:58 PM,

Leave Liberty. Seriously, get the hell out of there, don't you realise that what you're doing is the most simple route currently available? There are tons of pirates, because everyone is doing it.

Solution: go mine in Omega systems. Profits are similar, just the lolpirates are missing.

11-30-2009, 08:02 PM,

' Wrote:90% ? Your figures are, as I tell you, hugely incorrect. I know many great RP'ers from most major Liberty trading factions.

Seems to me that you're just an arrogant, bitchy and angry pirate who perhaps met a few powertraders. Your RP may be no better than what I'd expect from an average pirate.

Who are you to judge the RP standards of every trader on the server? Huh?

Dunno why are you insulting me. No I really didn't meet every trader at server and I don't judge every trader. I just say lot of traders can't RP. And I don't say I'm the best RPer and everybody except me is noob. I'm not interested in agressive posts. I'm just normally discussing situation.

' Wrote:Leave Liberty. Seriously, get the hell out of there, don't you realise that what you're doing is the most simple route currently available? There are tons of pirates, because everyone is doing it.

Solution: go mine in Omega systems. Profits are similar, just the lolpirates are missing.

True. Everybody is crying that in Liberty there are tons of pirates. Go at other place. In Sirius there are 5 houses, Sigmas, Omegas, Omicrons. Liberty isn't everything.

Lump Lorry · (This post was last modified: 11-30-2009, 08:13 PM by Lump Lorry.)

' Wrote:Dunno why are you insulting me. No I really didn't meet every trader at server and I don't judge every trader. I just say lot of traders can't RP. And I don't say I'm the best RPer and everybody except me is noob. I'm not interested in agressive posts. I'm just normally discussing situation.

Maybe... to be honest... this is what happen in very many cases:

Pirate: 10 mil or you die!
Trader: OOC: wait a min
Pirate: you are running!

(the tradere was just answering a phone call in real world and his trasport was not moving at all)

The pirate attacks and destroy the trader.

Is this roleplay? I would name it in a different way... before blaming traders for lack in RP, go around and check how much RP is really done by pirates...

Lump Lorry
on behalf of the Lorry Family
_______________________________________________________________________________

Kruger's bar und Mensa on Essen Station

(Reunion 4.85 chars)
-- The new Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry free trader. chief of the Lorrys | [RM] Hg. M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen Rheinwer's Obergefreiter
[HF] Cesare Lorry Hellfire Legion member | Kuger - Jack "Deep" Hole Kruger Minerals worker

(Former chars on Disco 4.82) -- The old Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry freelancer trader. chief of the Lorrys | Manta Lorry freelancer pilot | [HF] Cesare Lorry
fighter pilot, HF member | sso|Ace Wolverine Lorry bounty hunter | [RM] M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen
Rheinland Military pilot | [AEGIS] GB 303 Ticonderoga AEGIS artificial intelligence gunboat | (secret
member) In charge of keeping the family's secrets

ProwlerPC · 11-30-2009, 08:35 PM,

Blodo is right, back in 4.84 there was the Diamond/Niobium route that was heavily used by traders. This resulted in a drastic spike in pirate population. I did the next best route back then, the Engines/Berylium route, and because I was less pirated then if I had done Diamond/Niobium route I made more profit doing so.

ryoken · 11-30-2009, 10:37 PM,

' Wrote:Maybe... to be honest... this is what happen in very many cases:

Pirate: 10 mil or you die!
Trader: OOC: wait a min
Pirate: you are running!

(the tradere was just answering a phone call in real world and his trasport was not moving at all)

The pirate attacks and destroy the trader.

Is this roleplay? I would name it in a different way... before blaming traders for lack in RP, go around and check how much RP is really done by pirates...

This is sooo much more like what i have seen. Heck i got "stop" i said "nah" Then i here "ok now you die" Then i get hit by 2 super nova's,and a ton of nuke mine's. Whole encounter lasted maybe 30 sec's. I never even got a demand for cash, or cargo. And before anyone tell's me screen it,and put in sanction's... Well i did,and nothing. So you see. A pirate can do anything he want's,and get's away with it. A lawful doe's anything,and sanction city. Just look in sanction's. Most are lawful's. I will admit they may be because of real nasty OORP,or other ofences,but i have seen the same with pirate's but nothing.

That is why people are going pirate. To much leeway to what they can do,but lawful's have a strict guideline of what they cannot do.

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11-30-2009, 10:57 PM,

Or this scenario:

Greetings sir, cut your engines please

*No response*

Repeat cut your engines sir

*No response*

CD

"Pirate in Gaian gunboat can't pirate me here" - trader

"I go that ship only as present. I'm only friend of Gaians ... (starting RP story) - me

*trader starts engines and fly away*

"Learn to pirate you noob" - trader

Chico · 11-30-2009, 11:57 PM,

Leaving Liberty, while I'm sure is one answer, it may just be a short term answer.

My perspective on this topic is that this isn't really about the way you die or even the lack of RP between pirate and piratee but more the lack of necessity for RP on the pirates behalf and the need of so much more on the lawfuls side.
Thats why theres so many pirates and so few police/military. It's just easier with less hassle and less threats of sanctions.
RP comes with practice. Kick em hard enough and you'll get them there but having fun is a lot harder to get with so many restrictions placed upon you.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=53515

You may get some good insights and see the perspective from the other side in that thread and it might go some way to explain why there are so many more pirates and so few lawfuls.

Tovig · 12-01-2009, 12:30 AM,

It's because the lawful job is less fun than pirating. Sad but true.

hack · 12-01-2009, 01:27 AM,

Playing a lawful is a hard, tough, unappreciated, outgunned, undermanned, crap job.

More people would rather play an unlawful because it doesn't have the restrictions of the lawfuls.

If things keep progressing the way they are going, there wont be many lawfuls left, then we can set back and watch the unlawfuls kill each other because they are bored.

The Motto of the LPI is:

"Never have so few been abused by so many for so long."

EDIT: and yeah, I am making my way back. Somebody needs to put a boot in the butt of the LPI, and I just had a new pair made.......

Formerly known as LPI Police Chief Hull O'Brien.
Creator of Sgt. V. Price, 207th Precinct out of Chula Vista Station

12-01-2009, 01:36 AM,

There is so high of pirates in some houses because trade routes/mining locations are imbalanced. I havent seen one pirate in Kusari, and yet in liberty EVERY LANE gets interupted by a player pirate.

The pirate problem is out of control because, simply, nobody wants to play a police character. Why be police when navy can do everything police can and more?

I have not seen ANY BPA or RFP.

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