Discovery 4.86 Storyline: Liberty in 818 A.S.

[Zapp]

But still, Xenos are not whole state and their numbers are few even in scale of Liberty. We don't have resources to fight in Bretonia. Nor we want to.

And you speak for all of the Xenos? Last I checked, it was a very diverse faction and much more than just rednecks following the lead of one person. I can see a very few Xenos kitting up and flying over to Bretonia to take a potshot at the grandpappy of all foreign monsters. Actually seems like a cool idea to me.


Also Denelo, one mention to Vespucci was made and it was likely just a mistake. Cool down a bit?

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[Howard10]

Actually, the Xeno case would be more like (if we completely mess around with historical coherence and order) the French Resistance attacking the Nazis in Poland. The Xenos aren't an army. Vanillia stated they were falling apart back then. From this, it appears they're only just about keeping it together, but only because the Rogues are afraid of catching their rabies(?).

Why would they attack a full-on military in a House that doesn't matter to them? They'd make no overall impact on the war (Bretonia has 70,000 snub fighters, and 20,000 snub fighters in the civilian militia according to the Bretonian copy of this same thread). How would a few dozen Xenos make any difference at all?

Also, the Lane Hackers are migrating to Kusari, because Bretonia's economy is run down? What happened to Liberty putting massive trade incentives into getting supplies out there for Liberty corporations? I mean, in the overview, it was even stated that Bretonia is Liberty's prime trade partner over Kusari. How can the Lane Hackers not be turning a profit?

[Ceoran]

I lol'd at the Xenos. They really like lost causes, do they?

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Go play the game, within the given limitations. That is how role play games are played. Not by trying to work around those limitations or whining about them.

[Zelot]

No one is saying that the Xenos are a military, or that they, en mass are going to Bretonia. A few Xenos go to Bretonia, they help in the only way they know how, being a pest. I really dont see what everyone is so up in arms about.

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[NixOlympica]

And you speak for all of the Xenos? Last I checked, it was a very diverse faction and much more than just rednecks following the lead of one person. I can see a very few Xenos kitting up and flying over to Bretonia to take a potshot at the grandpappy of all foreign monsters. Actually seems like a cool idea to me.

I am not leader of XA but I speak for voices that are heard in out chat (and not only there). You also seem to forget that Xeno ID is actually Terrorist ID. So you will get bunch of PvP whore shooting everything and everywhere.

I think this ignores everything XA ever tried to do.

[Denelo]

Also Denelo, one mention to Vespucci was made and it was likely just a mistake. Cool down a bit?

Uh, problem is, it wasn't a mistake. Zelot's sitting there telling me that because someone spontaneously decided HF isn't involved in the storyline (which isn't really the point either way here), then according to lore, even though Vespucci has Hellfire Legion NPCs that shoot at Lane Hackers in 4.86, the Lane Hackers are still based in Vespucci?

[schlurbi]

Why are the Rogues forcing attraction upon themselves by allowing dissidents to use their base?

It's called growing, getting as much Dealers and powerful Friends as they can.

I mean, what? Rogues becoming the primary Liberty political refuge? Being the primary political refuge for Liberty is part of how the Hellfire Legion is as powerful as it is. What on earth?

Look above, we also have more Bases than the Hellfire, most of them are pretty much hidden. Doesn't matter whether or not you have your own System or you have Access to a Battleship. I'd say Rogues are more powerful than the Hellfire Legion.

I'm personally fine with this storyline, really.

So am I. I expected most of the Stuff happening to the Liberty Rogues, especially the Stuff with Gallia, I hope there will be some gallic Contraband as other Drugs or dirty Bombs. Didn't really expect that we'll be accepting more People that only want to hide, but we've done that in the Past (referring to Juni and Trent themselves).
But I've never thought of Deals with the Order, but I maybe get why.

Actually it feels like Spazzydragon had his Hands in there. xD

Uh, problem is, it wasn't a mistake. Zelot's sitting there telling me that because someone spontaneously decided HF isn't involved in the storyline (which isn't really the point either way here), then according to lore, even though Vespucci has Hellfire Legion NPCs that shoot at Lane Hackers in 4.86, the Lane Hackers are still based in Vespucci?

Maybe you just weren't able to force them out.

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"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"

[Unseelie]

I, personally, love this story. Hurrah!

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[NixOlympica]

I really dont see what everyone is so up in arms about.

Because it completely lack logics for Xenos and turns them to something opposite they are.

[Zelot]

Actually, the Xeno case would be more like (if we completely mess around with historical coherence and order) the French Resistance attacking the Nazis in Poland. The Xenos aren't an army. Vanillia stated they were falling apart back then. From this, it appears they're only just about keeping it together, but only because the Rogues are afraid of catching their rabies(?).

Why would they attack a full-on military in a House that doesn't matter to them? They'd make no overall impact on the war (Bretonia has 70,000 snub fighters, and 20,000 snub fighters in the civilian militia according to the Bretonian copy of this same thread). How would a few dozen Xenos make any difference at all?

Also, the Lane Hackers are migrating to Kusari, because Bretonia's economy is run down? What happened to Liberty putting massive trade incentives into getting supplies out there for Liberty corporations? I mean, in the overview, it was even stated that Bretonia is Liberty's prime trade partner over Kusari. How can the Lane Hackers not be turning a profit?

If you look at the section about Liberty Corporations, you will see that trade between Bretonia and Liberty is heavily defended and escorted, making attacking it a huge risk. With all the trade between Kusari and Liberty, much safer and much more money to be made there.

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