I don't understand the problem here... its just so simple...
Lawfuls, will do anything to free other lawfuls (or prevent them from falling into enemy hands), which are being held hostage.. its that simple.
If you carry corporation pilots, you'd be forced to drop them. Corporations are lawful. The BHG is basically a lawful corporation. They are basically the same thing as the LPI except the operate everywhere, and not just in liberty. So next your going to not release LPI pilots?
The BHG is a lawful faction, you can argue and scream till your red in the face... its not going to change.
You accuse the LSF of wanting to free the BH pilots, as being greedy.. but BH pilots don't sell for much in Liberty anyways. If anything YOU were greedy and unlawful, by wanting to sell "lawful" human beings for profit. (Perhaps you should join SU?)
A lawful person would not do this, therefore.. you are Un-Lawful
Iâll carry this flag
To the grave if I must
Because itâs flag that I love
And a flag that I trust
I've pretty much said everything that is neccesary. Anyone who kills lawful NPC's in Liberty space then runs when requested to hand over lawful pilots will be shot. You think I demanded those Hunters for 100k easy profit? It's called RP Juan, the server involes others Rp'ing not just you and your opinions. It's not for you to decide what you determine as lawful or not in Liberty and pick and choose which laws you follow.
This is simply a grown man throwing all his toys out of the pram. So Juan my final word is to direct you HERE.
The LSF are not the good guys either. We are Lawful..but that does not mean good.
I do not know how many times I need to write this...the LSF are the Intel branch of Liberty House. If folks fail to understand what Intel Branch means..I dont really know what else to tell you.
In Liberty the LSF can pretty much do whatever they want.
If you have an oorp concern try and handle it IC. Our RP is our rp. Please do not tell us that we must conform to some narrow ideal of yours. Honestly, the security forces for each of the great houses are the most eclectic rp factions in FL. And by that I mean in the number of ways they can be played, their motivations, their goals, their methods. The LSF might have some of the noblest men and women in sirus fighting for the poor and against injustice. The LSF might also contain some of the vilest men and women in sirus who are prepared to sacrifice entire planets to accomplish their righteous goals. And when I say righteous goals......the phrase drips and leaves a slimy trail of sarcasm in its wake.
Make a RP post on the forums.
"LSF pirating in Liberty! News at 11 Sirius Standard Time"
Start a RP campaing against what you feel is an injustice dont just jump on a RP sanction rp. thats just :crazy:
LSF cannot validate it's RP any better than "In Liberty the LSF can pretty much do whatever they want." Does not seem very reasonable, How about all factions use this excuse anywere in its ZOI.:crazy:Yet this won,t fly for other factions. Best excuse I have seen here is Juan disobeyed a police order(and attemped to run/cruise away) possible fair excuse for shooting him. Obviosly making him drop BH pilots is a arguable point. I have to agree with the thought that normal liberty police would not ask for them so without being listed as contraband, I see Juans complaint as very vallid. Also after reading all posts have not seen a anser to that other than a list is being made.
Wouldn't want to lock a unresolved thread don't see serios flaming, but a fair question.:unsure:
' Wrote:Kress: What part of Juan_Williams is NOT a pirate are you incapable of understanding? Read this thread again. Focus on my posts. My second or third post was addressed IC (that means In-Character) to Hoodlum explaining why I (as Juan_Williams) am NOT a pirate. The pirate flag and userbar in my signature are in relation to other characters, NOT Juan_Williams (just in case you're using them as an excuse for your false accusation).
The inappropriate actions of =LSF=Liquid are making me seriously consider making my character more unlawful. LSF should be encouraging lawful behavior, not illegally confiscating pilots, thereby angering players (like me) and encouraging unlawful behavior. Juan_Williams has NEVER been a pirate up to this point. IF Juan_Williams becomes a pirate due to this incident, you can blame the person who inspired that change: =LSF=Liquid.
And what Spear says..
Quote:Hi, 30 mins ago I encontered a Smuggler ID player in an Armoured Transport named Juan_Williams killing Bounty Hunters outside Planet Manhattan.
I scanned him and demanded the release of 36 BH pilots in his hold. He refused and tried to cruise off. I CD him and opened fire. Another player USS Lieutenenat Spiers in a Liberty GB came over and helped destroy him.
Now tell me people. Who shall I believe?
Pirate or not, if you have done the things above then you ARE to be shot. I wasn't there so could somebody please enlighten me with this guy's actions?
BH in they perspective are lawful ppl same like teachers or postmmans or businessmans.... there is not legal reason to have them in cargo hold on fighter or frighter, gunboat etc. etc.
beware... there are screenhunters waiting on your mistake... they need only 1
And after it will be, we could finally make another RP thread about the LSF being corrupt, eh?. And that'd be fair for all.
So... if you don't want to get bullied by the local authorities, avoid them.
Everything else is just rubbish, including my original post. We're supposed to play, not argue about how exactly is someone supposed to play.
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