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Offline Sabas
03-26-2011, 05:48 AM,
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Nvidia and Ati approach the problem of graphics differently.

Ati shoves as much cheap crap into the card as possible. Nvidia uses the bleeding nose edge, which also includes physx engine (stuff that explodes or interacts with you or a vehicle works out easier), then Nvidia shoves the CUDA system under the hood (ATI has their own varient from what I understand Cyprus or something like that).

In a nutshell CUDA stacks tasks instead of a linear set of programs you are using, it limits resources being spent. CUDA also repairs soft data, the sun over time damages data and CUDA actively repairs it.


ATI and Nvidia love pulling off the standard rebranding trick but upping the model a bit and saying tada, more money please!

Currently anything over a 280 GTX or the 4990 ATI series are overkill unless you want to count beads of sweat; at the 60fps mark your eyes detect absolutely no difference, so there is no point beyond that mark.


For processors, if you want to not replace your chipset for the next few years get a quad, or you can get a triple core from AMD to save money. Games only recently reached a point where they can take advantage of multi core units and the Core i series 7 and over is complete overkill, so you are proofing for little reason.

Hope that helps.

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Offline Mao
03-26-2011, 08:32 AM,
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' Wrote:Dosnt really makes any sence aahh GTX 460 is the same price as the GTS 450 ... But GTX 460 is way better !!!
Go for GTX D:<
If you like spending loads of cash make a Quad ( or more ahah ) SLI way ...
And dont forget to buy a new powersupply

And do tell me about it i 'd love to know !
In Romania, GTX 460 costs around 50 EUR more than GTS 450. As I already said before, the initial plan was to get the GT 440 at a price of 70 EUR, and I added to that 50 EUR more for GTS 450. If I add 30 EUR more I will have to wait one more month (without spending any of my money - which is impossible for me) and God knows what will happen in that month. Besides, as you pointed out, I need a new powersupply as well and I don't want to get a cheap one (like I have now:P)

' Wrote:Nvidia and Ati approach the problem of graphics differently.

Ati shoves as much cheap crap into the card as possible. Nvidia uses the bleeding nose edge, which also includes physx engine (stuff that explodes or interacts with you or a vehicle works out easier), then Nvidia shoves the CUDA system under the hood (ATI has their own varient from what I understand Cyprus or something like that).

In a nutshell CUDA stacks tasks instead of a linear set of programs you are using, it limits resources being spent. CUDA also repairs soft data, the sun over time damages data and CUDA actively repairs it.
ATI and Nvidia love pulling off the standard rebranding trick but upping the model a bit and saying tada, more money please!

Currently anything over a 280 GTX or the 4990 ATI series are overkill unless you want to count beads of sweat; at the 60fps mark your eyes detect absolutely no difference, so there is no point beyond that mark.
For processors, if you want to not replace your chipset for the next few years get a quad, or you can get a triple core from AMD to save money. Games only recently reached a point where they can take advantage of multi core units and the Core i series 7 and over is complete overkill, so you are proofing for little reason.

Hope that helps.

It helps. I read something about CUDA as well, didn't understand much but I know that nVidia used this technology for the GTS 450. As for the processor, I don't think I will change it very soon. I will keep this one till the motherboard dies and then get a new PC (hoping I will have more money when that happens).

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Offline ivr56
03-26-2011, 08:04 PM,
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CUDA wont help you at all much in gaming. In applications like Adobe CS5 and say like Maya CUDA wll be taken more advantage of.

Gaming wise though, the GTS 450 is on par with the dirt cheap HD4850/GTS250 from a few years back and the bit newer HD5750. Slower in some cases as well.

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Offline Mao
03-31-2011, 10:37 AM,
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Final stages before I buy it:

This: http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=g3DZh57bRwKAX5Wp

OR

This: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-p...spx?pid=3593#sp

????????? Prices are the same. Which one is better?

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Johnny_Walker
03-31-2011, 01:05 PM,
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' Wrote:Final stages before I buy it:

This: http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=g3DZh57bRwKAX5Wp

OR

This: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-p...spx?pid=3593#sp

????????? Prices are the same. Which one is better?


Gibabyte , Thats for sure
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Offline Internity
03-31-2011, 04:17 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-31-2011, 04:19 PM by Internity.)
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I would choose the Gigabyte's version of video card if I were you.
It also depends on your pc case, ASUS model is shorter and Gigabyte's model is longer and most probably has better cooling.

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Offline Mao
03-31-2011, 04:54 PM,
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' Wrote:I would choose the Gigabyte's version of video card if I were you.
It also depends on your pc case, ASUS model is shorter and Gigabyte's model is longer and most probably has better cooling.
Yeah, that could be a problem. I found the dimensions for the ASUS model but I wasn't able to find any dimensions for the Gigabyte one.

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Offline Zavier
03-31-2011, 05:24 PM,
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ASUS:
Graphics Engine NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
Bus Standard PCI Express 2.0
Video Memory GDDR5 1GB
Effective Memory Size 1024 MB
Engine Clock 810 MHz
Memory Clock 3608 MHz ( 902 MHz GDDR5 )
Memory Interface 128-bit
Resolution D-Sub Max Resolution : 2048x1536
DVI Max Resolution : 2560x1600
Interface D-Sub Output : Yes x 1
DVI Output : Yes x 1 (DVI-I)
HDMI Output : Yes x 1
Software ASUS Utilities & Driver / AIWI software
Dimensions 7.874 " x 4.376 " Inch

GIGABYTE:
Chipset GeForce GTS 450
Core Clock 830 MHz
Shader Clock 1660 MHz
Memory Clock 3608 MHz
Memory Size 1 GB
Memory Bus 128 bit
Card Bus PCI-E 2.0
Memory Type GDDR5
DirectX 11
OpenGL 4.0
Digital max resolution 2560 x 1600
Analog max resolution 2048 x 1536
Multi-view Yes


I'd go the Gigabyte, regardless. I have their GTS250OC and it has not let me down in anyway yet.

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