Indies; why do we need them/what is good about them?

[Snoozzzer]

Official factions are completely unregulated and uncontrolled.

This is both a good and bad thing.

Fixed it to make a point.

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[Werss™]

Indies are an absolute necessity to Disco, we need them because the server would be dead without them. I play both as an Indie and a Faction player. I'm certain the majority of faction players have Indie chars as well. I would be pretty vocal if Disco became faction-only.

This!

First of all, we all have started as most indie and we were "lolwuts" kay? Indies also important because of the activities,if there is no them, everything would become *too* serious, maybe even bored. Nobody learned began to play...sooner or later they will learn how to play, maybe it is important that they find someone on hand, as much indie playing it generates more experience,whether he is "lolwut" or not. Although there are always those who do not want to learn something,and do not want to read, and not listen experienced players,but...

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[sadtranslation]

I play characters in official factions, as well as indies - and I don't see the point in this thread.

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[Agmen of Eladesor]

Indies are an absolute necessity to Disco, we need them because the server would be dead without them. I play both as an Indie and a Faction player. I'm certain the majority of faction players have Indie chars as well. I would be pretty vocal if Disco became faction-only.

I'm with Felix on this one. For official faction membership, I've stuck ONLY with the BHG| as my sole faction. But I also have Order, GRN, LN, LPI, and Corsair ships out there - as well as my Freelancer. None of them are in any official factions - and I better not hear anyone call my indie playing lolwut.

To paraphrase - just because I don't have the LPI tag in front of my name doesn't mean I'm not a cop in Liberty. So pull it over there before I go on my Sunbucks break...

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[dodike]

So we all know <strike>indies (unofficial faction members)</strike> players cause problems on this server

:wacko:

[Panzer]

I stand by my earlier opinion.

Factions are summarily punished for the transgressions of individuals.
Indies are a shapeless mass that take no responsibility whatsoever.

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[[Cerberus] Illusive Man]

Indies do not cause problems. "Lolwhutters" does.

/ Signed.

[Jeremy Hunter]

I stand by my earlier opinion.

Factions are summarily punished for the transgressions of individuals.
Indies are a shapeless mass that take no responsibility whatsoever.

As someone with three accounts, two full, with only ONE offical tagged, I find this wrong. A good chunk of indies take responsibility. Me, TCG, 63rd, TS|.

Indie=/= Lolwut, as said.

Im fine with certain factions who's ID has a slightly more restricted terrorist AI like SCRA, Phantoms, etc. (And CR Panzer).

But indie =/= no responsibility.

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[DarthBindo]

I stand by my earlier opinion.

Factions are summarily punished for the transgressions of individuals.
Indies are a shapeless mass that take no responsibility whatsoever.

Agreed, from my rather unique perspective on the matter.
There's also the problem of factions being blamed for indies, like with the Zoner war and the Corsair-Order Alliance breakdown.

As someone with three accounts, two full, with only ONE offical tagged, I find this wrong. A good chunk of indies take responsibility. Me, TCG, 63rd, TS|.

Being in an unofficial faction does not count as being an indie.

But indie =/= no responsibility.

Yes, yes it does.
A faction has to take all the heat for anything any one of it's members does.
A indie can run and hide and change their name, or whatever, and there's nothing anyone can do to hurt any single indie.

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[Daedric]

Jinx & Zelot summed up my feelings rather nicely.

I do agree though that it is annoying that most indy players aren't responsible, but so are some factions.

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