Gunboats are useless

[Stealthsultn]

@Trogdor

http://youtu.be/obDpJe5FGs4

Zoom all the way out and enjoy the fisheye autoaim. No skill needed. :crazy:

Totally lame and needs to be fixed.

I called this one all the way back in my old anti-turretsteer/turret zoom threads

Bleh, GBs are definitely far more multi-role than they should be. Its the combo of turrets and the "trick" demonstrated above. The civi SHminer is very effective for the same reason.....

Don't argue for counters: you should not have to box like a madman to counter what is obvious abuse of game mechanics (that makes the game easymode). If we want to keep turret steer we need to take a good hard look at what its capable of.

Zoom is just a -new- way of fighting, people will learn it's just as beatable and adapt. All it adds is variety to combat style, not overpowered at all.

At all? Not even a little bit? That is the boldest statement I have ever hear about a feature that is still in the balancing stage on account of it being freshly introduced.

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[jammi]

The easiest fix would be to place a max zoom limit on ships based on class and size.

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[Varyag]

turret steer is good for caps, however they are still ultra easy to kill. You just can't do it in one bomber anymore.

I would say they took the easy mode off of bombers. You are not guaranteed a kill whenever you meet a cap in space now.

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"I looked up and all I saw was green death"

[Killer]

Gunboats useless?what?

Gunboat i think is one of the best ships,becouse gb can damage all other tipe of ships.

I don't know only one thing-I have Tridente and 7-8 turrets are missles in old mod i can shot esier to backward but now you have to press almost back view to shot back.Strange :wacko:

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[Blighter]

I: Gunboats are ok.
II: Some gunboats are better at job A than at job B and vice-versa.
III: Turret Steering + Turret Zoom are the main reasons Gunboats can fulfill their role properly now.
IV: Their role is to mess up Snubs, especially Fighters.
V: Neither feature is OP.
VI: Both can be easily countered, lol.
VII: This thread sux.
VIII: Your mother is a very nice lady.
IX: Veygaar is actually totally right here:

Keep in mind, one single NPC will screw up you're aim like no other when zoomed out. It's also easily beaten by just fast boxing, all shots "auto-miss" then. Heck even a GB will beat another GB by just boxing if the other zooms out like that. Seen it, done it, know it.

Zoom is just a -new- way of fighting, people will learn it's just as beatable and adapt. All it adds is variety to combat style, not overpowered at all.

And lol btw, use MAXIMUM ZOOM IN A CLOUD FILLED WITH ROCKS AND NPCs as a bonus, like O-41 entry-way in Gamma. xmfd @ "Zoom OP"

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[Ursus]

I use gunboats a lot and that targeting 'feature' with zooming all the way out is completely lame and should be removed asap. Remove zooming entirely if that targeting 'feature' can't be removed separately.

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