Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order

[Redon]

The problem I have with this that the announcement reads like it's the Zoners that are fed up with the Order's attacks and giving them the finger. It doesn't sound like the Order should have any more reason to go slaughter random Zoners than before. Yet most of the server still has a simple "red is dead" mentality, so the outcome of this is predictable. Why would the Order suddenly engage in assaults against Zoners that have nothing to do with Nomads, instead of trying to repair relations? What do they hope to gain from it? How does this fit into the Order's lore, when I think of what the Order stood for in Vanilla? Honest question, I'm not too familiar with how much Omicron factions have changed.

[Stoat]

Nerf the ID so that their ships are at a disadvantage, and they'll not be getting into many fights..............................

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[Gytrash]

For reals though, from where are the order supposed to get their supplies now? inRP this should be a crippling blow to the Order as the two primary suppliers of fuel in Sirius are the GMG and the Zoners, GMG for H-fuel and Zoners for Deuterium, last I checked the GMG
1) were allies of the Zoners
2) didn't deliver to nomad infested space
The order don't have a shipping arm, they don't have any other allies that could concievably ship enough fuel to them to keep their ships running if they are using capships and since the loss of Toledo and the massive inRP loss of ships there plus the cost of setting up on a new planet they've got to be down to the wire on resources (unless they have more resources than Gallia ever had).
Do the order even have allies anymore?

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The problem I have with this that the announcement reads like it's the Zoners that are fed up with the Order's attacks and giving them the finger. It doesn't sound like the Order should have any more reason to go slaughter random Zoners than before. Yet most of the server still has a simple "red is dead" mentality, so the outcome of this is predictable. Why would the Order suddenly engage in assaults against Zoners that have nothing to do with Nomads, instead of trying to repair relations? What do they hope to gain from it? How does this fit into the Order's lore, when I think of what the Order stood for in Vanilla? Honest question, I'm not too familiar with how much Omicron factions have changed.

It's technically the other way around, Order been attacking Zoners for a while on and off while enjoying the benefits of being "allies" Admins have finally stepped in and said "Look Order, if you want to go fight Zoners that's fine, you can't be allies at the sme time now, so in light of the Order's actions become Red pl0x"

[Omi]

How exactly are you going to 'nerf the ID' to put their ships at a disadvantage? 75% powercore on their own technology? xdddd

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[Gytrash]

How exactly are you going to 'nerf the ID' to put their ships at a disadvantage? 75% powercore on their own technology? xdddd

Remove ships they can't afford to field anymore, Cruisers, Battleships, Carries, Gunships maybe.

[pillow]

The problem I have with this that the announcement reads like it's the Zoners that are fed up with the Order's attacks and giving them the finger. It doesn't sound like the Order should have any more reason to go slaughter random Zoners than before. Yet most of the server still has a simple "red is dead" mentality, so the outcome of this is predictable. Why would the Order suddenly engage in assaults against Zoners that have nothing to do with Nomads, instead of trying to repair relations? What do they hope to gain from it? How does this fit into the Order's lore, when I think of what the Order stood for in Vanilla? Honest question, I'm not too familiar with how much Omicron factions have changed.

The Order's not what used to be in Vanilla. They've got a new leader, therefore new Orders.
Besides, they surely are pissed off that they lost a Planet, so they must show everyone they're angry.
Nomads can't swear angrily as other people(Zoners) can. (:

[Omi]

That's not putting their ships at a 'disadvantage', that's making them totally unusable within the rules.

Try again.

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[Stoat]

How exactly are you going to 'nerf the ID' to put their ships at a disadvantage? 75% powercore on their own technology? xdddd

Yeah, why not, seeing they've lost their only ally that supplies them the things they need to REPAIR their ships. It' may be their technology, but a blueprint is of no use if you can't get the actual raw supplies to make or repair anything. All it takes is a little thought

[Omi]

See, now you're implying that Order is entirely dependent on the Zoners for literally everything.

If that were true, then why would they have gone and pushed them around in the first place? I think you're not being real here yourself - Zoners are hardly some massive, fifty-thousand marines strong conglomerate of Sirius-wide 'get-anything ship-anything' powertraders, particularly the bunch way out in the Omicrons. They're a bunch of hobos on stations so far removed from civilization that nobody except their immediate neighbours cares any more.

Insinuating that the Order is all military and has no way of acquiring resources from, you know, the entire planet (or technically a moon?) that they're sitting on is absurd.

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[Gytrash]

That's not putting their ships at a 'disadvantage', that's making them totally unusable within the rules.

Try again.

Alrighty then, nerf the powercores to match with their new inability to have fuel, I don't see the problem here.