So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no?

[nOmnomnOm]

yeah only #4 looks to be some kind of rp with the barge itself. Read my above edit. I dont see how those were any positive rp things that you did with it.

No apologies given.

And I am a Canadian.

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[Connor]

Just be glad he DID some RP... I mean would you rather all of the RP be none existent?

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[Westgate Security]

You know.... Bringing them back as ships that are open for all will be good.
Power trading is not avalable anyway when Jump Drive works with 3600 as top.
Also that will increase pirate activity as Barges will be REALLY good targets for pirate. So only few people will fly it anyway.
(Or they will just F1 is space when pirate enter the system).
Still great opportunity for escort contracts and pirates.

[Stone Bros Ltd/GmbH]

Edit again. Those links are either you registering a barge, asking to buy a barge, or using it in other rp.
Oh I see one place that you offered services for pob building. That is the best rp you have? Building pobs?

yeah only #4 looks to be some kind of rp with the barge itself. Read my above edit. I dont see how those were any positive rp things that you did with it.

No apologies given.

Please can you give example what you consider as proper barge RP then?

Also I was just reacting to your statement

Barges were really abused with motifs of power trading. People that flew them didn't care for rp. Find me a barge that rped. Plz.

It was proved wrong. It is not my fault that you don´t acknowledge RP just to keep your opinion and "win" the argument because you can´t admit you were wrong.

P.S. If our links are not RP, does this mean that for example this AFC thing is also not RP? Because you were doing there exactly the same thing as we did with the barge.

[nOmnomnOm]

Just be glad he DID some RP... I mean would you rather all of the RP be none existent?

Be glad he DID RP?
What?
Be glad he did RP on an RP server.
kay.

[Connor]

Well from what you're saying very little of his ROLE PLAY posts for his BARGE don't count as RP for his barge. Are you dumb?

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[7AlphaOne1]

Oi mates, let's not play the blame game here. Let's all calm down and discuss this in a civil manner.

First of all, the Corvo change, I hear, has sparked a lot of RP "Research" and Exploration. So, positive on that one.

The main issue at hand: the Barge.

One of the best aspects of the barge was it's inability to handle normal space travel efficiently, thereby justifying it's huuuuuge cargo capacity. Then came PoBs and Jumpdrives. This led to Jump trading and PoB stocking up, both not very positive activities to the server.

While the jump issue has been handled, the PoB issue has not, but I wouldn't say this had as much a negative impact as jump trading. But more on that later.

The Bustard, on one hand, has made available a heavier ship to everyone, perhaps a bit too heavy, especially on weapons. It has room for exploitation, but isn't exploited so far, which is fine by me. However, it hasn't played much role, as far as I am aware, to improving or introducing roleplay ( but this is limited to my knowledge, and , hence, is just an opinion, not a statement).

So, tl;Dr , keep the new corvo, but bring back the Barge, and find a way to fix the oorp loopholes in it.

[Chuba]

yes he is dumb, snoopy

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[Xenon]

Barges were around well before JDs were a thing, I know most of you cannot remember it, but try to imagine it. Also not that they can/should be jumped and/or be dockable on POBs. Bringing them back as a ship would still be nice.

+1

Bring them back
Don't let them dock to any planets or bases or POBs
Make them smaller and more maneuverable
Don't let them jump or mount devices as cloaks etc..
Forbid trading using barges (making $$)

That's it

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[nOmnomnOm]

Edit again. Those links are either you registering a barge, asking to buy a barge, or using it in other rp.
Oh I see one place that you offered services for pob building. That is the best rp you have? Building pobs?

yeah only #4 looks to be some kind of rp with the barge itself. Read my above edit. I dont see how those were any positive rp things that you did with it.

No apologies given.

Please can you give example what you consider as proper barge RP then?

Also I was just reacting to your statement

Barges were really abused with motifs of power trading. People that flew them didn't care for rp. Find me a barge that rped. Plz.

It was proved wrong. It is not my fault that you don´t acknowledge RP just to keep your opinion and "win" the argument because you can´t admit you were wrong.

P.S. If our links are not RP, does this mean that for example this AFC thing is also not RP? Because you were doing there exactly the same thing as we did with the barge.

I will react to the P.S. thing first.
The issue is that the RP is not specific to the barge. You can do it with any ship. But what I am arguing about is if there is RP that is specific to the Barge itself.
Just because you didnt abuse them, doesnt mean they were not abused. So I am not really proved wrong here... Good job for not abusing them?

An example I can give that is barge RP is some sort of RP problem that a barge would be the solution to.
RPing it as a mobile base/station for instance.
Is there RP that is specific to the ship.

Your #4, while i didnt bother clicking, looks to be one of those RPs that are specific.

But also we are talking about in-game interactions here as well. Not just forum links that mention Barges in them or what not.