As I've mentioned previously, this isn't about bio domes, Connor. Those generate an amount of food, which support the Zoners and whoever uses Freeport 9. The corsairs need all the food they can get, because they have a planet to support. A barren planet.
The most important fact is that it's an open marketplace, mainly due the fact that it's ran by the zoners. Both the Outcasts and the Corsairs use it, because it brings them goods they need closer.
I've seen that Corsair Council to Zoner Leaders transmission, and they were saying that they were denied the right to build a base in Theta. Well, do they have the resources to support such base? It would certainly be easier with the Zoner freeport around. If they take Freeport 9 and turn it into a corsair outpost, all those goods that were flowing from the Sigmas and Omegas will be cut off , leaving the Corsairs with Bretonia as their only supply line. (Cadiz - Leon - Tripoli).
Now, the Corsairs can roleplay whatever they want, but if they were to go through with this, they should be affected by it, because such move will harm their economy.
If I understand it correctly - then Biodomes are not just for food production, but also serve as part of the ecology of the space station.
That is to say that they serve other functions related to air and water purification, as well as green living space for the people on board.
Ultimately, the biodomes should exist in order for the station to be self-sufficient, and by no means an exporter of foodstuffs (except for small quantities for ships and outlying colonies).
Gran Canaria however, is a different matter. If the Zoners are to have a breadbasket - it would be this planet.
I might also point out that in all likelyhood, food grown in biodomes is hydroponic, not grown in soil, to achieve the greatest efficiency and control over growing conditions.
Anyway, maybe it's not food as we know it? Maybe it's an endless flow of green, vegetable mass, that's easy to produce, and with the use of Alien Organisms as fertilizers, roll out food like a newspaper press?
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Anyway, maybe it's not food as we know it? Maybe it's an endless flow of green, vegetable mass, that's easy to produce, and with the use of Alien Organisms as fertilizers, roll out food like a newspaper press?
No Peka i think your reffering to Synth Paste there.
Also wouldnt you think that given the current domestic predicaments of the Corsaris that maybe the population is only like 300k people tops for such a barren place? this is ofcourse not counting the station populations. at various locations.
a place like crete would hamper any kind of expansion realyl since water isnt exactly abundant and you cant grow food there.
So in reality, id say its plausible that the corsairs recive most of their food from the Zoner biodomes.
And besides the lore states that the Hessians are more numerous then the corsairs and they are only a miners a revolt, this is ofcourse only more numerous then the corsair fighting force which is still a VERY big percentage of the corsair population given their reliance on piracy.
See this is why it is important to agree on certain things before they come to this madness.
I would say that a biodome isn't sufficient to feed off houses around it (Corsairs and Outcasts together) but it does puzzle me to why is everyone ignoring Water and Oxygen as imports to the freeport.
and not just "imports" but heavy imports because freeport needs a lot of both. I'm sure everyone can jump the gun and say "we haul it from [insert anything but Corsair base] but Crete is the closest planet. It has both, and even though it's soil is infertile, the water is present on the planet. It's the food that's needed.
Dusty did some math, people almost instantly jumped the gun with planet - cap ship size ratio. I agree, we can make-belief everything, but in the end, I would love someone like Admins or Mods to decide within a week, two or tops a month to what do biodomes do, who do they feed and how will it all resolve.
- lawfuls trade with zoners, lawfuls do not trade with corsairs ( vanilla )
- zoners can purchase food from lawfuls and bring them to their freeport, where corsairs are allowed to dock and buy
- biodomes make stations self sufficient - and may even produce surplus
- freeports are usually closer than any other factions base which may be convinced to sell food to pirates ( not just corsairs )
the essential part is the availability of a site to buy food, not just the production. - and that availability extends to water/oxygen etc.
now what does that mean?
- the valuable part of a freeport is a hub where lawfuls and unlawfuls make trade - a link between two worlds that have no other place to achieve deals - not without tarnishing their conscience.
- so indeed - the biodomes may only be the flashy bits that stand out - but the VALUE of a station is the diplomatic ties. - that is what makes a freeport valuable too all that use it.
- once an unlawful faction indeed ensures a solid deal with a faction that "substitutes" this link between lawfuls and unlawfuls ( lawfuls being the only ones that really produce food in larger quantities ) - the freeport becomes irrelevant.
- leaves the question - what are "core" characteristics of a sirius-balance ... and what does it do if these "core" characteristics are overcome.
no one says "they cannot be overcome".... it is mostly about "is it beneficial for the faction balance if they are overcome"
all that is based on vanilla - but pretty much no faction in disco is vanilla anymore. zoners are not, corsairs are not, outcasts are not, - even gaians are not. ( well, i think bundschuh may still be ) - so re-evaluating and re-considering diplomatic characteristics may be something to look into .... but only from an elevated position which is also impartial and unaffected by favourism or dislikes.
biodomes of fp 9 surely doesn't produce enought food for crete. I ussaly think that 1 biodome is able to sustain one avarage base (for example skiros). Not to feed planets. But freeport 9 has other uses which were already pointed out here by other people. It's basicly the last base in far omicrons which is not "unlawful" for variuos of transports who just drop food there and go back to the house space. Zoners then sells that food to corsairs taking a nice share of a profit.
Now if corsairs would start nagionating and drafting more contracts about shipping food directly to crete, they would become much more independent on zoner goods (which is happening now) and most likely would buy the same amount of food for much cheaper price.
For example we have hogosha now. IND.. and most likely one of the biggest trading corporation which in vanila is hostile but in disco is neutral for very long time. Samura. They no longer need freeport as drop off point.
Quote:Also, it would mean that biodomes are more efficient than planet-side farming.
And what makes you think that farming on planet somehow is left the same and didn't advanced. Yes, biodomes artifactal lights, uber fertilizers, tweaking with gravity so on, and on a stuttgart a rheinlands uses a horse and a plow?
Silly. Planets which are bredbaskets specializes on growing food for years. Space stations can't specialize on only one thing. They are simply too small in most cases.
Besides, if making food is much cheaper and faster and more productive on biodome, don't you think synth paste would build a lot of biodomes in house space? Well after all they are buissnesmen and they are searching for the biggest profit.
' Wrote:Hmm, I always knew that Zoners got food from the cores for trade with others. As far as i was aware the biodomes were merely there to feed the population of the Freeport itself. And even then it was strained to do so. Hence the slowly rising cost of food the farther you get from the house systems.
BUT I HAVE A SOLUTION!
We take that big ole Dyson Sphere those Nomads dont use anymore and make it a gigantic farm to feed all!!
If I remember the surface area of a Dyson Sphere correctly (from Star trek:P) It could feed over 1/2 of Sirius. Rawr. The surface area would be determined by the size and age of the star but you get my drift.
I am making wild approximations here. I have no numbers to crunch and admit I am horrible at math.
It could house all of Sirius.
Oh, and what dusty said.
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