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Liberty-Kusari embargo?
Offline Linkus
02-21-2011, 08:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-21-2011, 08:01 PM by Linkus.)
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Ageira can just stop repairing the lanes.


Seriously, the lore established in Vanilla Freelancer goes with the idea that Ageira is the only corporation in the known universe that can create and repair tradelanes and jumpgates.

If Ageira wanted to, they could utterly screw the other Houses.
However, why would they?
Ageira makes a roaring profit from their trade, so it makes sense to just keep doing it.

It would only be if a House directly attacked Ageira that they would probably stop helping them.


Seriously though, if no H-Fuel is reaching Liberty, DSE ships can't get to Kusari.
No H-fuel = No trade.
Kusari is cutting itself off, in very dangerous ways.





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CommanderYamakazi
02-21-2011, 08:02 PM,
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I rather have flowing diplomacy and politic changes than sit and squabble about theoretical Role-Play that in the end is the same type of line of thinking such as: Yeah well, the minute you lead my Navy character to your criminal base, I can theoretically send the entire Dreadnought fleet and bombard it to hell, there. You are gone.

Instead, simply playing out these embargoes, or changes of politics in general, generates activity because guess what, it's new. It's not the same as doing X route every single day, or raid X faction every single day. It's new, never been done before, and it makes things interesting. I prefer this line of thinking, regardless of what is logical or not.
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Offline Zelot
02-21-2011, 08:02 PM,
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' Wrote:Ageira can just stop repairing the lanes.


Seriously, the lore established in Vanilla Freelancer goes with the idea that Ageira is the only corporation in the known universe that can create and repair tradelanes and jumpgates.

If Ageira wanted to, they could utterly screw the other Houses.
However, why would they?
Ageira makes a roaring profit from their trade, so it makes sense to just keep doing it.

It would only be if a House directly attacked Ageira that they would probably stop helping them.


Seriously though, if no H-Fuel is reaching Liberty, DSE ships can't get to Kusari.
No H-fuel = No trade.
Kusari is cutting itself off, in very dangerous ways.

Well then maybe all these people who are concerned in the long term effects for their business could lobby either Liberty or Kusari on the matter. But that doesn't happen. Only oorp complaining.

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Offline Linkus
02-21-2011, 08:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-21-2011, 08:05 PM by Linkus.)
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There's no point in bothering to lobby when the actual actions are utterly silly.

No H-fuel = no trade.
No H-fuel = no tradelane parts.
No tradelane/gate parts = no more House transportation.






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Offline Zelot
02-21-2011, 08:07 PM,
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' Wrote:There's no point in bothering to lobby when the actual actions are utterly silly.

No H-fuel = no trade.
No H-fuel = no tradelane parts.
No tradelane/gate parts = no more House transportation.

Ye Ye, I guess that's interesting, exciting role play.

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CommanderYamakazi
02-21-2011, 08:08 PM,
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' Wrote:There's no point in bothering to lobby when the actual actions are utterly silly.

No H-fuel = no trade.
No H-fuel = no tradelane parts.
No tradelane/gate parts = no more House transportation.

If we are going to think like this, let's apply it everywhere.

I'm sure you will end up with an exciting, super-stale mod.
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Offline Hastings
02-21-2011, 08:08 PM,
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' Wrote:Ye Ye, I guess that's interesting, exciting role play.

I find economic roleplay to be quite invigorating :\

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Offline Vito
02-21-2011, 08:10 PM,
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' Wrote:There's no point in bothering to lobby when the actual actions are utterly silly.

No H-fuel = no trade.
No H-fuel = no tradelane parts.
No tradelane/gate parts = <strike>no more</strike> slower House transportation.

Fixed that for you. Also, the Corsair and Outcasts have no lanes and they are doing just fine. Grand Canaria is growing exponentially and it has no lanes. The Edge and Border Worlds also have no lanes and both regions are full of life and activity

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Offline SpaceTime
02-21-2011, 08:11 PM,
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' Wrote:Well then maybe all these people who are concerned in the long term effects for their business could lobby either Liberty or Kusari on the matter. But that doesn't happen. Only oorp complaining.

Couldn't agree more. Both Liberty's and Kusari's economic system favourite the existence of lobbying. As far as I know, one Liberty Corporation lobbied the Libertorian Government in order to make the necessary steps and lift the embargo (check the communication messages between the J/K and the secretary) but the stupid incident with the LSF in Kyushu freezed everything...
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Offline Linkus
02-21-2011, 08:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-21-2011, 08:16 PM by Linkus.)
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Why would they spend billions upon billions of credits on tradelanes and Jumpgates if they had no purpose?

Why would Ageira, one of the cornerstones of Liberty, be such a massive company that spends vast sums of money keeping tradelane and jumpgate technology a secret?

The argument of Houses V other systems really fails for trade. The sheer amount of trade in House space is something that's hard to represent in Freelancer, especially when you can't leave the outer rim systems looking completely dead.
There are billions of people on single planets in the Houses. There are multiple planets.
Some of those planets rely on constant food shipments from other sources just to survive.

It's hard to under-estimate the value of tradelanes and jumpgates, they really are like the roadways of the Houses.



I'm far from saying that this embargo has done bad things for players. It's pretty damn fun to run a blockade that is actually enforced. The trade factions benefiting from it too are thriving.
It's more the roleplay flaws that leave a bad taste. H-Fuel is the lifeblood of Sirius, cutting it off is like stopping your heart.





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