On a slightly side note, Jack, we do not post Skype logs here even if we want to show how bad the other person is - regardless of you claiming that person to eat children or calling you a backdoor of a human. On a less side note, guys, you just made another forum drama. And I just think that's why mommy told me not to go to Bretonia.
And not like you got a lot of good and nice persons and bad Murphy. You're somehow all so "nice" today. Yes, it's really funny.
The thing I especially liked was the way you suggested RPing the ships as diffrent models of the BAF ships. Good idea there, seeing as it wouldn't make sense for MI5 to be flying around in strait templars.
On the subject of leadership, or whatever most of the people seem to be talking about is this thread, I have no idea what is this all about, or even who you guys are talking about, so I'm not gonna comment.
Basically, I would suggest doing two things to make this faction idea a sucess
1) stop thinking about leadership for a second and focus on getting the acutal players unified behind the IDEA, not the people
2) Merge with the Bretonia Intelligence Service. Currently, this sub-group of the BAF has low activity, but great RP, so just talk to Dab (who I'm pretty sure is the leader) about that. And keep it civil, y'all.
All in all, Intelligence factions cannot exist when fractured. Everyone has an idea of how they want to use a shady organization to pull strings, so compromise is necessary.
Oh, and I'll be joining this, or the BIS, or whichever name people decide to give it when the faction becomes unified with the other bretonian intelligence peeps.
Peace out, and I'm looking forward to making silly James Bond one-liners in space :)
You know, a little story about me. I only play on Discovery to have fun and actually roleplay, using these forums to improve my roleplaying ability. I've been banned five or so times from another RP server, for the very same attitude problem. Yeah, I have an attitude problem, but so do a lot of other people on these very forums, I just get pissed off at a larger amount of people for stupid reasons that can easily be solved in roleplay.
I hate OOC disputes, I hate taking things to OOC. Every action in character can easily be solved with in character consequences or in character roleplay, yet, what annoys me the most is that people on these very forums cannot do that without making something into an OOC argument.
What I'm seeing right now, has happened in the past to countless of people, many of whom have either left the server completely, or rarely post on the forums anymore because they're tired of being ganged up on, and many of whom, who don't actually care anymore and will play the game to play the game.
While, this has nothing to do with this particular situation, it does have something to do with my attitude, and what you haven't actually seen. Recently, I've been running a roleplay server, as Head Administrator, yeah, shocking. While this is on a completely different game, I feel that it is pretty much the exact same thing in regards to running a faction, just with a bit more responsibility. Funny enough, I have people telling me that the roleplay server itself is the best roleplay server they've seen in a long time.
Now, some of you are wondering why I haven't bothered posting until now. I wasn't told by any of my members not to post, and I didn't tell them to directly defend me from flames or criticism, they did that on their own. I was merely reading every post and keeping a level head in regards to the situation, even when one of my members warned me not to read all five pages.
You all either hate me or dislike me because of my general out of character attitude, and you can't see past that because you think I'm going to rage at people for doing something either I screwed up on, or I didn't agree with.
Ask the people who I roleplay with constantly, either on a weekly basis or a day-to-day basis, and you'll find out that I don't cuss at them, I don't shout at them, and that I'm actually fun to talk to. Though, that really doesn't matter on this entire situation.
I take roleplaying seriously. I've always enjoyed the players on this server because everyone is unique in their separate ways, and yes, even if it pissed me off to the point of me telling them to screw off, or other hostile words.
As for Jacks recent post, I'm not going to lie and say that I didn't say any of that, and that he edited out certain words or replaced them. Jack isn't that type of person, and I was using hurtful words towards him. Though at that point in time, I was pissed off enough that people were allying themselves with the Nomads, not fully knowing the true situation behind it, and the fight in Dublin later that day, actually made me thing otherwise on the situation that had happened in Kyushu.
When Jack actually talked to me, I was still pissed off about what happened in Liberty between Joe and I, and I took my frustration and anger out on Jack. Could I have handled that situation better? Yes. Did I? Obviously not. When Jack showed me the group chat log, he confirmed that the Nomad was thinking that the IMG Convoy was a hive mind, and that the IMG weren't actively helping the Nomads. I went to apologize to Jack, but he blocked me on Skype, so I wasn't able to do so.
Now to sound like an extremely self-centered person. The IAB is my creation, and has been my creation since I made the first faction post. The reason it died was because I briefly left the server giving Jam the leadership role due to be pissed off at what happened with the Bretonian Parliament. The downfall of the IAB wasn't because of my actions regarding the Bretonian Parliament, but my leaving, and at that time, Jam's inability to actually lead the faction due to having real life issues to deal with.
If me being a leader of the IAB is going to cause problems, then I'm going to have to say, tough. Everyone has only pointed out the fact that I'm not a calm person when things start getting hairy. I know plenty of people who get just as pissed off at what other people do, and yet, no one has a problem with them.
Seeing as I can't organize anything I write, and don't particularly care to continue an argument. I'm just going to repeat what I said earlier. I'm here to roleplay, for now on, thats all I want to do. Is roleplay. If you have a problem with me, then I'm sorry, hell, I'm sorry for everything I did. Frankly, I know me apologizing won't mean much, but I truly am sorry. Hate me if you want, but I'm only here to roleplay, not get caught up in this pathetic trial by forum nonsense.
That said. This is my first and last post in this topic.
' Wrote:If me being a leader of the IAB is going to cause problems, then I'm going to have to say, tough.
I read some of your post and ignored some of it. A lot of it is grand standing trying to make yourself look good, ignoring the issues you've had here in the past and blaming others for them. All of that aside, I've a comment on the part I quoted.
The IAB doesn't belong to you, me, him, or her. It is a faction in this game. Anyone can make an IAB faction, regardless of what you say. If you being leader of the IAB is going to cause problems for the IAB, you should step back and let someone else handle it as you are putting your own ego before the faction.
Seeing as how your attitude hasn't changed and you haven't accepted that you did indeed make mistakes and you are at fault for your history on this server, I highly doubt this IAB will have any fate differently than the last IAB. I see you getting all pissy and storming out again, then the faction dying all over again.
Sometimes its better to let another lead and advise them rather than lead yourself.
' Wrote:As for Jacks recent post, I'm not going to lie and say that I didn't say any of that, and that he edited out certain words or replaced them. Jack isn't that type of person, and I was using hurtful words towards him. Though at that point in time, I was pissed off enough that people were allying themselves with the Nomads, not fully knowing the true situation behind it, and the fight in Dublin later that day, actually made me thing otherwise on the situation that had happened in Kyushu.
When Jack actually talked to me, I was still pissed off about what happened in Liberty between Joe and I, and I took my frustration and anger out on Jack. Could I have handled that situation better? Yes. Did I? Obviously not. When Jack showed me the group chat log, he confirmed that the Nomad was thinking that the IMG Convoy was a hive mind, and that the IMG weren't actively helping the Nomads. I went to apologize to Jack, but he blocked me on Skype, so I wasn't able to do so.
' Wrote:@ Deadric
Sort of went against what you mentioned.
How so? He said what he did was wrong, then claimed to have tried to apologize. If that is the case, why not publicly apologize then and there? Instead he made an excuse for why he didn't apologize.
I know a handful of people he's treated just as badly as he did Jack, the bigger problem is he does it, knows it is wrong and continues to do it. Only stopping to apologize when called out on it, but still doing it again and again.
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