Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order

[Omi]

I wouldn't have doubted for a second that you wouldn't have seen the problem there, Gytrash.

Do you have any suggestions that aren't ripped from yours truly, or is that the end of your ideas for sensible ID-based disadvantages for this heinous breach of roleplay (or whatever it is; I can't even tell myself, from reading the sanction notice).

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[Redon]

The Order's not what used to be in Vanilla. They've got a new leader, therefore new Orders.

So they went from "we have to defend humanity!" to "we have to murder zoners because ?????"

[Stoat]

See, now you're implying that Order is entirely dependent on the Zoners for literally everything.

Insinuating that the Order is all military and has no way of acquiring resources from, you know, the entire planet (or technically a moon?) that they're sitting on is absurd.

As is the idea that their non-military population is sufficient to keep their current fleets of ships flying. I'm just saying it'd be nice to actually see an in game, physical disadvantage placed upon them as a consequence of their actions, rather than a notice on the forums and possible changes in some future update.

[Gytrash]

I wouldn't have doubted for a second that you wouldn't have seen the problem there, Gytrash.

Do you have any suggestions that aren't ripped from yours truly, or is that the end of your ideas for sensible ID-based disadvantages for this heinous breach of roleplay (or whatever it is; I can't even tell myself, from reading the sanction notice).

How exactly is this a heinous breach of roleplay?

The Order has been going against their ID for YEARS in attacking Zoners and Zoner groups both directly and indirectly, as a result of this they have lost their allied status with their only allies left, the Zoners. This is a consequence for the direction that the Order's leadership has chosen to take the Order in, if they don't want to be allied to the Zoners nobody is forcing them to be, they chose to act in a hostile manner and now they're hostile.

[Stuffz]

I guess the most immediate disadvantage is the amount of dockable bases the Order suddenly lost. But this will at most be a slight annoyance leading to longer travel times. Dunno about nerfing their ships, but Order should never have gotten caps in the first place.

[Eduard]

How exactly are you going to 'nerf the ID' to put their ships at a disadvantage? 75% powercore on their own technology? xdddd

Remove ships they can't afford to field anymore, Cruisers, Battleships, Carries, Gunships maybe.

A lot of factions in disco field ships they shouldn't afford realistically.

Would it be fair to target only one of them?

[Gytrash]

A lot of factions in disco field ships they shouldn't afford realistically.

Would it be fair to target only one of them?

Those factions have at least some way of getting resources, Order is in the back end of nowhere with no friends and no resources.

[Shizune]

How exactly are you going to 'nerf the ID' to put their ships at a disadvantage? 75% powercore on their own technology? xdddd

Remove ships they can't afford to field anymore, Cruisers, Battleships, Carries, Gunships maybe.

This is basically the stupidest thing I've heard ever. So, your basically telling me that, even though your not in of rank of the Order Primary Fleet, that we should loss our..2 Gebs, 3 Osiris, 4 Resh's and about 6 Hathors because we can't supply them? As I just checked, the BD| mass supply us. Before the Zoners decided to have a hayday and stop their sup- Oh wait. That's right, the Corsairs were the original supporters of the Order with supplies, the Zoners did jack all nothing for us and have been doing such for a while. Phoenix has been dead and stopped suppling us a while ago, OSI stopped during the ZA conflict, Star just hates everyone, TAZ never supplied us and the indies didn't either. The Order never relied on Zoners for anything for the last 2-3 updates. Our real supporters were the GMG who have been supplying us, the Junkers who keep us fed with metal, Corsairs/BD/VWA with crew and Rheinland as a whole support the Order as well if people didn't know. Just because one small faction turns against us, does not mean its the end of the world for the Order, think first, ask around, you'll be surprised who still supports the Order, even the Xeno's still do

[Sath]

How exactly are you going to 'nerf the ID' to put their ships at a disadvantage? 75% powercore on their own technology? xdddd

Remove ships they can't afford to field anymore, Cruisers, Battleships, Carries, Gunships maybe.

A lot of factions in disco field ships they shouldn't afford realistically.

Would it be fair to target only one of them?

Even zoners can't afford hundreds of Nephilims and Aquilons. I smell irony here.

[Stoat]

Well, they have the Bundschuh and Blood Dragons. So they'd be able to get limited supplies

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