Sorry for butting in, but Drake, surely our goal is not to have our trigger finger constantly on the Print Screen button? I for one, have practically never taken a screenshot, other than the ones I take for combat reports and such. And to add, I will never start using screenshots, even if it means me getting undeservedly sanctioned, just because my agenda in the game is not to incite conflicts. A bit unrelated, but it has connection to the topic as well.
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' Wrote:Sorry for butting in, but Drake, surely our goal is not to have our trigger finger constantly on the Print Screen button? I for one, have practically never taken a screenshot, other than the ones I take for combat reports and such. And to add, I will never start using screenshots, even if it means me getting undeservedly sanctioned, just because my agenda in the game is not to incite conflicts. A bit unrelated, but it has connection to the topic as well.
Not our goal, but, alas, a side effect. The only way to punish rulebreakers is with sanctions, and the only way to get sanctions is to take screenshots, and the only way to defend yourself is with your own screenshots. A purely honor-based system doesn't work, it never works, since it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the whole barrel.
Edit: Interesting fact, I've only ever submitted one sanction report in my time here, and that was over a year ago. I really only care if people are being deliberately disruptive and/or a real ass, and more often than not other people get to it in those cases.
' Wrote:Sorry for butting in, but Drake, surely our goal is not to have our trigger finger constantly on the Print Screen button? I for one, have practically never taken a screenshot, other than the ones I take for combat reports and such. And to add, I will never start using screenshots, even if it means me getting undeservedly sanctioned, just because my agenda in the game is not to incite conflicts. A bit unrelated, but it has connection to the topic as well.
Ok,one example.sigma13 yanahi.now all respect no fire zone around it because all kmow that violsting it can make big trouble from enemies,junkers,ans his own npc faction.but now, when corsair attaxk outxast in front of it,all can only watch.why?becaouse thier are enemies.junkers can not attack him because they are friendly,corsairs can not attack him because he is perfectly in server rules and all can only wait how it ends. I know that it is may e bad example but i hope you get the point of this example.other example can be outcast attack on gamma.most of the time we figbt only in fighters and when someone in bs will join we send him away,we order him not to join fight.but now he can ivnore us,attack fogtrlers,and we can make nothing.is this really way that disco will have?only what is needed is to stay in server rules and noone need to care on rp of official factoins?or better noone need to care about what they ade saying,or making? Sorry for typos,i am writing tjis from my iphone from my bed:-) good night boys
Junkers can enforce their rules around Yanagi or any other Junker base. The 5k area around Junker bases is pretty much considered sovereign space for the Junkers, so if their 'allies' or 'friends' (which the Corsairs and Outcasts are neither, they're merely business partners) come into that sovereign space making trouble, the Junkers can do whatever they want to enforce their rules.
If a group of Outcasts go raiding Gamma, they can politely ask that battleship to stay home, but can't prevent it from coming along. On the other hand, that ship is gonna get ganked if there are more than a few Corsairs hanging around (which I have to assume there are if you're going on a raid). Hang back a bit and let him get slaughtered, then go have your fun. Or, if it's a planned thing with even sides, send a message to an Admin to teleport the disruptive battleship elsewhere.
Hmm, odd... My browser is telling me 'teleport' isn't a real word. Bah.
So, I'd like to ask the world how enforcing a mandatory cap registration is 'assuming guilt'? Because I keep hearing that phrase, and it makes no sense. Is it all-inclusive? Yes. That's fair. To everybody. I was told that, if we intended to continue our cap reg, that we needed to single people out. Wut?
You know, instead of assuming that people are jut going to get sanctioned if they rain on everybody else's parade (which they do not, and stop lying to yourselves, the system is far from perfect) why don't the Admins allow Cap Registration and regulate what it can do? Create a standardized model the factions should follow (like I've been telling people to do for some time). This allows an active control of capships, and a security against the 'potentially abusive factions'.
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I think the idea is that, whatever the guidelines are, someone has to decide whether the player requesting a capship deserves it or not, which leads to bias and attempted dictatorship (theoretically, and in my experience, likely). Since there's no real way to codify the requirements to get a capship beyond 'so-and-so (or so-and-sos) is (are) in charge, what he (they) says goes', and Igiss has clearly said that he doesn't want people restricted from buying capships, the only real option is to let anyone buy them with no restrictions.
I have a question, though: Why does a discussion about the benefits of official factions vs. unofficial factions always come back to control of capships, when that one single thing has already been debated to death in hundreds of posts, and already has an official and final, and nearly unanimous, Admin decision?
Because a large number of people (in fact, I'd say the majority. See siggie) disagree with the official ruling. Moreover, that control is the Administrator's reason for stripping us of our sovereignty, which means we take it right back to the source.
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Dear Lord, eight pages ... Shall we bother with official factions at all then. If we don't, I for one shall quietly
take my leave, and you can live with the infighting, the civil wars, the lack of roleplay and respect, and of
course, a PvP server, just like all the rest out there ... Be a shame, but hey, you all seem to know best.
One other minor thing, if we ever, God forbid, have another total player wipe, only the official factions get
any form of financial help to start up again.
Be very very careful what you all wish for ... Food for thought.
Hoodlum
Some say he is a proud member of: "The most paranoid group of people in the Community."
I honestly think that capship control is more important to you than sovereign control of your Guard system. Can you honestly say that you'd be fine with things if all the capships, Guard IDs, and any other unique equipment was moved out of your system and put elsewhere?
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