Battlegroup Scarabaeus

[Omicron]

In vanilia, Omicrons were an impenetrable wild, hostile and unknown to most zone devoid of any civilians (save for sole Freeport in Omicron Theta, far and sidelined) and Order was the only human faction that would in this situation never be threatened or concerned about politics of houses (until Rheinland decided to Anschluss the Sirius). They had the privilege and liberty to be above it. In Vanilia, Order had to never compete with Core and civilians/explorer/pioneers/hermits aka Zoners were virtually not present in the deeper Omicrons to cause any tensions.

In Disco, factions knock at doors on our "secret refuge" on almost daily basis and threat of invasion from say: Rheinland is increasingly becoming more and more real with House corps and navies expansion into the border & edge worlds. Vanilia Order had always lead people to their deaths for a greater purpose. If it weren't for stopping NOmads, it was due to their interference into every single conflict in Sirius sector, even if indirect. The Order, like modern intelligence agencies are not white knights. They're bad people enlisted to serve their country/ideology.



No matter how you put it, Order always had blood on their hands.

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[Lythrilux]

Y'know, at this point, with all the anti-Order| factions cropping up, we should just have a Order Resistance ID.

Battlegroup ID:
-Can defect from factions at will

You guys could just roll with an Order ID and just lowkey not like Order. Not being able to shoot someone doesn't necessarily mean you have to like them.

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[Nodoka Hanamura]

Y'know, at this point, with all the anti-Order| factions cropping up, we should just have a Order Resistance ID.

Battlegroup ID:
-Can defect from factions at will

You guys could just roll with an Order ID and just lowkey not like Order. Not being able to shoot someone doesn't necessarily mean you have to like them.

That'd work, Lyth, except We're already having that issue. And inRP it'd not make sense. It'd be like my character having a KNF ID and starting a coup. She wasn't part of KNF, and I'm pretty sure [KNF] would take issue with that lapse in logic.

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[buzzlightyear]

I could go very far and say LSF ID could work, it's somewhat weird but better than FL ID which is the only real option. (LSF ID but one of the rogue LSF divisions? Something along this lines, it is far from a perfect solution though)

This sounds way more realistic.

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[Kalhmera]

LSF is out of the question, I nor the Montu ever been in the LSF and I don't want to make RP appear out of nowhere.

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[Lythrilux]

That'd work, Lyth, except We're already having that issue. And inRP it'd not make sense. It'd be like my character having a KNF ID and starting a coup. She wasn't part of KNF, and I'm pretty sure [KNF] would take issue with that lapse in logic.

We've had factions in the past using IDs where they dislike another faction with the ID (even when it's the OF). They either just simply harbour the dislike and do nothing about it, or at an official level end up being allowed to shoot the other faction, such as during the OC civil wars as one example.

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[Spectre]

The entire idea behind using the Order ID over any other is that it gives any ships that aren't our SRP ones the ability to do the majority of things that our SRPs can as well, without getting one themselves and grounding them down with one specific ID as well. Any other ID will not do, simply because of both RP and the ID lines themselves, except for FL of course, and we simply can't use that as it would be far too restrictive on any ship in the faction carrying it.

If a Terrorist ID or something of that nature were designed for situations like this, we would most likely switch to that depending on the ID lines, but if it's a Terrorist ID, or again, something like that, we wouldn't really be in a position to argue.

I'd rather be a 'terrorist' than a pilot of 'the order' as a 'rebel order'.

[Antonio]

Use Order ID but don't shoot order for the duration of your vote period. Make them unfriendly, even RP it with Order player factions about a ceasefire. If you pass officialdom vote, you can edit your own ID to be hostile to Order and shoot them.

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[Skorak]

Use Freelancer ID, adjust SRPs, grab suitable bounties and it should probably work. Better than Order ID in any case. As long as you treat Order hostile that is.

Though obviously using a faction ID would be better than FL but I currently don't know what you'd join.

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[Sombs]

In vanilia, Omicrons were an impenetrable wild, hostile and unknown to most zone devoid of any civilians (save for sole Freeport in Omicron Theta, far and sidelined) and Order was the only human faction that would in this situation never be threatened or concerned about politics of houses (until Rheinland decided to Anschluss the Sirius). They had the privilege and liberty to be above it. In Vanilia, Order had to never compete with Core and civilians/explorer/pioneers/hermits aka Zoners were virtually not present in the deeper Omicrons to cause any tensions.

In Disco, factions knock at doors on our "secret refuge" on almost daily basis and threat of invasion from say: Rheinland is increasingly becoming more and more real with House corps and navies expansion into the border & edge worlds. Vanilia Order had always lead people to their deaths for a greater purpose. If it weren't for stopping NOmads, it was due to their interference into every single conflict in Sirius sector, even if indirect. The Order, like modern intelligence agencies are not white knights. They're bad people enlisted to serve their country/ideology.



No matter how you put it, Order always had blood on their hands.

All fine and good, but you overstepped that part of the order's seriousness when you threatened to use weapons of mass destruction on a planet that wasn't even remotely involved. You think you are playing the Order, but you're probably the only one thinking that. Just to clarify the important difference between the Order that pretended to be terrorists and the Order that is terrorists.

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