New Bundschuh Faction

[Vrabcek]

Did I ever say that this was going to take over VF) Listen dude. We don't care if VF) is dead or not. We want to try and work with them we are currently trying to contact the leader. We just want a more active faction that can work co-op with the VF) and we can help each other out.

you want to be in this faction?

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[Pinko]

you want to be in this faction?

Don't go there, I'd be sad if this thread turns into a flame war.

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I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.

[icehawk398]

you want to be in this faction?

I am funding this faction and helped design it. I am in it.

Regards

Fusion.

[Dragonego]

The whole ''division within the VF'' thing makes a whole lot more sense, but... I don't want to sound mean or anything, but you really sound as if you want to have a high position in a faction, without the work you need to do to achieve one normally, just to get the power. Do you have an indie bundie you were active with for some time, or you really just decided that the VF) were dead and that it'd be a good thing to revive them? Working your way up with your indie is often easier and more well-accepted than just begging for a high position.

I became the leader of the AU without being too sure of what I was doing, and it got me sick from FL, because I thought it'd be simple to revive it (and I was in fact an ''influent'' independent for some time before becoming the leader). I try to contribute as much as I can, but I'm still on a long term break from FL. I had to give the temporary leadership to someone else, too...

Again, I try to be as constructive as can be, but I'm sorry if sound rude.

Wow, That really makes me look bad. No I'm not looking for a high position, I just saw that there was no active Bundschuh faction, And I'm getting sick of only seeing [RM] and Hessian ships in Rheinland. If people really think that I am wanting power, I will give leadership to someone else. All I want is a bit more then Pirating and Military actions in Rheinland.

I do thank you for your comment Dancing Lady. Don't get me wrong, I may sound like I had a mad rant at you just now, But I'm really just thinking to myself. Maybe trying to get a point over.

Thank you for your comment. It addressed a valid point. But no, I'm not trying to revive a dead faction for quick leadership. I'm trying to revive a dead faction for a little change.

Cheers.
Dragonego.
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P.S.

I'd just like to say that Fusions comments do not necessarily represent those of the Bundschuh or its affiliated factions. :)

[teschy]

Now now, there's the VF faction and there's -this- faction. Let's not turn this into a 'lol join my fakshun' thread, inside of someone else's faction thread.

I hardly see the VF) around, they're as active as the HT and RepEx combined. Let this man do his own thing, he didn't write a wall of text for you to throw mud at it. I personally like the idea of a fresh Bundschuh faction, regardless of who's leading it, and I appreciate the effort that was put in this faction post.

And onto the faction. I'm not really sure how close you should be to the Red Hessians, because of their deals with the Coalition (which are on the opposite side of democracy) but also because of their way of life. They are mostly pirates, plundering civilian vessels and fighting their turf war in the Omegas against the Corsairs.

I'd much rather see the Bundschuh working a deal with the Liberty Navy, because right now, both factions have the same goal.

[Exsiled_one]

I would like to point something out.

When an faction gets inactive because their members aren't there but playing some other character - i would consider it dead.

There are some factions here, that keep the charade of being active or counting over 12+ members but they rarely have that much actives. I am not saying that Kishiro is better, and that isn't the point here at all (it is, Kishiro rocks).

But the point I'm trying to make is that if a faction's activity died out and noone cared to rebuild it, why deny the leadership place to a person that wants to build it up.
It's a sad thing that factions come and go, but it's the reality. It's also one of the reasons I am sad that the rule "Player can't belong to more than two system owning factions" isnt enforced.

This way you have "fake" activity that for example counts over 25 members while only 10 is active. Kudos to those 10, but it would really help if people could stay on few factions.

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[Dragonego]

Now now, there's the VF faction and there's -this- faction. Let's not turn this into a 'lol join my fakshun' thread, inside of someone else's faction thread.

I hardly see the VF) around, they're as active as the HT and RepEx combined. Let this man do his own thing, he didn't write a wall of text for you to throw mud at it. I personally like the idea of a fresh Bundschuh faction, regardless of who's leading it, and I appreciate the effort that was put in this faction post.

And onto the faction. I'm not really sure how close you should be to the Red Hessians, because of their deals with the Coalition (which are on the opposite side of democracy) but also because of their way of life. They are mostly pirates, plundering civilian vessels and fighting their turf war in the Omegas against the Corsairs.

I'd much rather see the Bundschuh working a deal with the Liberty Navy, because right now, both factions have the same goal.

Very Excellent thoughts Mein Herr. I actually rather like your ideas. can I take them into consideration and possibly put them into use? You will of course, be credited.

Thank you for your feedback.

[icehawk398]

I would like to point something out.

When an faction gets inactive because their members aren't there but playing some other character - i would consider it dead.

There are some factions here, that keep the charade of being active or counting over 12+ members but they rarely have that much actives. I am not saying that Kishiro is better, and that isn't the point here at all (it is, Kishiro rocks).

But the point I'm trying to make is that if a faction's activity died out and noone cared to rebuild it, why deny the leadership place to a person that wants to build it up.
It's a sad thing that factions come and go, but it's the reality. It's also one of the reasons I am sad that the rule "Player can't belong to more than two system owning factions" isnt enforced.

This way you have "fake" activity that for example counts over 25 members while only 10 is active. Kudos to those 10, but it would really help if people could stay on few factions.

Ummmmmm mate no offense but what does that have to do with this faction?

Regards

Fusion.

[Vrabcek]

yea maybe we should try to reorganise the volksfront...the leadership is really inactive...but i can tell you that some members are willing to be active. The thing is we need a new leadership...becouse parteimidglieger cant lead faction...
I cant tell you whether a new bundschuh faction would help to increase the activity of the bundschuh
So therefore i say that please lets try to fix the volksfront first...

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[beander2]

I haven't read every single comment here, so forgive me if this is repetitive. I think a new, explicitly political Bundschuh is a very good idea. The VF, as has been stated, portrays itself explicitly as the military arm, and as I was told when I inquired into it some time back, training is all about combat. Fair enough, but that does not at all exhaust what Bundschuh is.

Bundschuh needs political operatives, it needs academics and researchers (both history/politics and science), and it needs traders. All of these should be fairly small in scope - no huge transports going in and out of Bruschal (sp?) all day. But Bundschuh's primary engagement with the chancellor's regime is political, i.e., argument. It isn't combat, except where necessary. I think engaging traders and attempting to persuade them of Bund's cause, rather than outright pirating, is called for here. (And if anyone thinks that's bunk, that's precisely what we did with the Federalists in Bretonia, and it was very successful for the short time we did it.) Surgical strikes, both against certain RM targets and against even Liberty targets (to demonstrate what Bundies think of external threats to the Rheinland populace) would be appropriate, too. And I, too, think that limited relations with the Hessians is the best course of action, so as to not compromise the political message and the support of the people.

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Sir Alisdair Buchanan, KBE ~ Gateway)Trafalgar