[101st] Ghosts of Razgriz Maltese Spectres

[Shaggy]

Probably because they chased a sheildrunning LN gaurdian to the alaska gate

But I still don't understand how they would be able to get through the weapon defenses in and around Zone -21 inrp. I understand it is possible ingame yes but inrp it makes no sense in this mod.

But thank you for your answer Wesker.

Would the shieldrunner LN, in-rp, lead a whole group of Outcasts through Zone-21 and into the jump gate?

It's two sides at fault, not the Outcasts only.

I see you're point Ramke, maybe the LN -inrp- went to Zone -21 to use the extra defensives for more chance of survival. That I do not know. I am just really really curious on how inrp. Not ingame, inrp an Outcast Snub Wing can make it through Zone - 21 and Alaska defenses chasing a LN fighter. It just doesn't make sense to me personally.

But thank you to Wesker, Flash and Ramke for giving me answers but they are not the answers I am actaully looking for.

I want to know inrp (not ingame) how 4 or 5 or 6 outcast fighters can make it through zone - 21 and into alaska without being shot down within seconds.

[Shaggy]

As it was just pointed out on skype. How do people get into Omega 52 or Omicron 100. It is the same principle. But also the same answer I am looking for. Even if it was an enemy or hostile faction entering one of these systems.

I just don't understand and know the inrp reason (Not ingame)

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[Internity]

Probably because they chased a sheildrunning LN gaurdian to the alaska gate

But I still don't understand how they would be able to get through the weapon defenses in and around Zone -21 inrp. I understand it is possible ingame yes but inrp it makes no sense in this mod.

But thank you for your answer Wesker.

Would the shieldrunner LN, in-rp, lead a whole group of Outcasts through Zone-21 and into the jump gate?

It's two sides at fault, not the Outcasts only.

I see you're point Ramke, maybe the LN -inrp- went to Zone -21 to use the extra defensives for more chance of survival. That I do not know. I am just really really curious on how inrp. Not ingame, inrp an Outcast Snub Wing can make it through Zone - 21 and Alaska defenses chasing a LN fighter. It just doesn't make sense to me personally.

But thank you to Wesker, Flash and Ramke for giving me answers but they are not the answers I am actaully looking for.

I want to know inrp (not ingame) how 4 or 5 or 6 outcast fighters can make it through zone - 21 and into alaska without being shot down within seconds.

I was that LN and they all 5 Outcasts + 1 Rogue which came later to help them,know that, that's the reason they kept shooting me until I died. Because they wanted to kill me at all costs. I wonder why? Take a guess...? No, not just because my character is a LN guy. It's something which i don't want to bring into discussion in this thread.
You assumed very well, @Shaggy I went to Zone 21 in RP to get extra cover / defense for more chance of survival. I am sure that in RP the OCs wouldn't be able to dock Alaska gate because they don't have the "access codes". But hey, when they all wanted to kill me there was nothing to stop them to do it.

[Ramke]

I see you're point Ramke, maybe the LN -inrp- went to Zone -21 to use the extra defensives for more chance of survival. That I do not know. I am just really really curious on how inrp. Not ingame, inrp an Outcast Snub Wing can make it through Zone - 21 and Alaska defenses chasing a LN fighter. It just doesn't make sense to me personally.

But thank you to Wesker, Flash and Ramke for giving me answers but they are not the answers I am actaully looking for.

I want to know inrp (not ingame) how 4 or 5 or 6 outcast fighters can make it through zone - 21 and into alaska without being shot down within seconds.

Think about it from our perspective.

We started the fight at Norfolk, and our target decided to run into the minefield and the jump gate after. While we could've just dropped it and switched to a different target, he would inevitable come back (instantly or restocked) and repeat the same shenanigans when we were to shoot him again.

Over and over again.

There is no sense for him to show the path through Zone-21, there is no sense for us to be there. The Outcasts will go through a lot of nerves because the LN would just restock & re-engage over and over and over again.

I can't blame the OCs for breaking in-game lore and RP sense to avoid a massive headache and abuse of fairplay. There is no in-rp reason just like the LN had none to lead them to where the OCs went.

[Divine]

First of all, it's been 4 NC- and 1 [101st] and you decided to come to our feedback instead of the NC- one. One would think you'd ask the majority of the players whose actions you don't understand.
Second, it was answered already. The fight started in NY and they've been led by the Navy to Alaska.
Last,...

As it was just pointed out on skype. How do people get into Omega 52 or Omicron 100. It is the same principle. But also the same answer I am looking for. Even if it was an enemy or hostile faction entering one of these systems.

... this is not the place for such an argument. Create a new thread for that.

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[Shaggy]

Ramke I like you as a person but right now you are making no sense to my question. I am speaking from an inrp point of view and not and ingame point of view. To me outcasts would not be able to access or even get close to the Alaska jumpgate inrp.

Yes the LN Navy guy showed you the whole in the minefield straight to Alaska jumpgate. 99% of the server most know it's 3 lanes down from norfolk cut out the lane and fly straight left.

But it is not explaining or giving me the answer I want.

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[Shiki]

Probably because they chased a sheildrunning LN gaurdian to the alaska gate

But I still don't understand how they would be able to get through the weapon defenses in and around Zone -21 inrp. I understand it is possible ingame yes but inrp it makes no sense in this mod.

But thank you for your answer Wesker.

Would the shieldrunner LN, in-rp, lead a whole group of Outcasts through Zone-21 and into the jump gate?

It's two sides at fault, not the Outcasts only.

I see you're point Ramke, maybe the LN -inrp- went to Zone -21 to use the extra defensives for more chance of survival. That I do not know. I am just really really curious on how inrp. Not ingame, inrp an Outcast Snub Wing can make it through Zone - 21 and Alaska defenses chasing a LN fighter. It just doesn't make sense to me personally.

But thank you to Wesker, Flash and Ramke for giving me answers but they are not the answers I am actaully looking for.

I want to know inrp (not ingame) how 4 or 5 or 6 outcast fighters can make it through zone - 21 and into alaska without being shot down within seconds.

LN -inrp- led OC wing to top secret system and OC followed them -oorp-? Sure. We did not raid Alaska, we raid NY, we had 2 official LN faction members in the same group with the guy who led us there. They could've stop them. In such case, as NC- leader I can't see much problems with fighting in Alaska. Please, believe me that would be way more better to us to stay in NY not having dozen of razoring NPC gunboats. Argument "you can't surrvive this inRP" is not making a lot of sense to be honest, otherwise most of the raids on the home systems were not possible. Not our fault that the indies backed by official navy factions members are leading us there and showing us things -inrp- as you say. You should've visit [LN] and 5th| feedback instead.

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[Shaggy]

Shiki your answer is more clearer than I have had since I asked this question but it still does not clarify how you managed to "Dock" on the jumpgate. It would have highly encrypted secret codes that only specific pilots would have access too.

from and oorp point of view. You wanted to kill the guy who kept running, docking and restocking in a fight. Which is understandable alot of people would get upset or mad about that.
Ingame point of view you followed them because they took you through the zone -21 minefield and defenses.
INRP it would not be possible. Because of the amount of defenses there is to defend Zone 21 from any civilians, or hostiles who is trying to access it.

I want the INRP answer.

Shiki you have given me the closest answer yet.

But like I stated before it is very similar to BAF going to Omega 52 it would never happy or be possible INRP. But ingame it happens and oorp it could happen because OORP.

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[Internity]

Shiki your answer is more clearer than I have had since I asked this question but it still does not clarify how you managed to "Dock" on the jumpgate. It would have highly encrypted secret codes that only specific pilots would have access too.

from and oorp point of view. You wanted to kill the guy who kept running, docking and restocking in a fight. Which is understandable alot of people would get upset or mad about that.
Ingame point of view you followed them because they took you through the zone -21 minefield and defenses.
INRP it would not be possible. Because of the amount of defenses there is to defend Zone 21 from any civilians, or hostiles who is trying to access it.

I want the INRP answer.

Shiki you have given me the closest answer yet.

But like I stated before it is very similar to BAF going to Omega 52 it would never happy or be possible INRP. But ingame it happens and oorp it could happen because OORP.

No, Shaggy I didn't even restock once in that fight. They're all assuming things or throwing words into my mouth. They simply charged me at Missouri and I ran to Zone 21 to take "cover" and to dock and log off in Alaska. Who would be so crazy to dock and restock just to return and get ganked back by 6 outcasts + 1 rogue which came back to help them more??!

[Shaggy]

I just been informed by the faction leader off [LN] this.

"The zone 21 gate n all isnt really a big secret but its very well defended"

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