It is fun to walk into a door. I walked into a transparent glass one today. This young child laughed at me, whilst engaging the protection of his mother, whose right hand he was clutching with his left. I would have loved to laugh at him or get a one up, but I am a grown man, supposedly, and it would be socially unacceptable. Either way, I find it unfair. The door did not open for me.
Anyway, everyone around here loves double-standards. I have a slight chuckle when BHG| members come in here accusing people of ganking. How many Threshers were in Minor the other day? Probably more fingers than I am using to type, and that is saying something, since I use the majority of my fingers to type.
Sure, this is a feedback thread, and we all love to +1, but at the end of the day, are you going to expect someone you gank not to gank you back? I love the BHG| feedback by the way, which consists of Athenian coming and saying something along the lines of "no, nothing's wrong, go away" and posting a picture of a bin with scrunched up paper in it in the same post. Makes people think their feedback has been taken onboard.
We could go into how many Keepers. raids have decimated forces in the past, especially with their superior equipment, but what is the point when it will have a similar gist to the above about the BHG|?
I have supported the TCG| in my time, and I have criticised them. Also, I am a part of BHG| and I took part in the above raid which I described. All in all, feel free to bring about how I am biased in this instance into this.
Anyway, as for actual feedback, stop rising to the trolling. Someone says something not true, say it did not happen and ignore any future comments, or say their statement has been acknowledged. (And post a picture of a trash bin with scrunched up paper in it. "OLOLOLOLOL".)
As for nationalistic, perhaps yes, tone it down and fair-play is the way to go, despite the ganking. The four eyes comment I heard about was poor form.
The name? I could not give a monkeys. However, you are not the only surviving agents of the Order of Cinncinatus. Try to make that clear.
Tommy, to be dead serious, this is why I asked for the chat transcripts. It would clear up a lot of bad blood and suspicion. I have said my piece on the issue, and until it is proven, the attitude I have seen from some Order| players, who are very "nationalistic" themselves, combined with the suspicion is not going to help things.
' Wrote:Sure, this is a feedback thread, and we all love to +1, but at the end of the day, are you going to expect someone you gank not to gank you back? I love the BHG| feedback by the way, which consists of Athenian coming and saying something along the lines of "no, nothing's wrong, go away" and posting a picture of a bin with scrunched up paper in it in the same post. Makes people think their feedback has been taken onboard.
Nothing is wrong. Go away.
I found this wonderful internet explanation site called Wikipedia:
Quote:Feedback describes the situation when output from (or information about the result of) an event or phenomenon in the past will influence an occurrence or occurrences of the same (i.e. same defined) event / phenomenon (or the continuation / development of the original phenomenon) in the present or future.
So feedback does influence recurrent events. I.E. use it for good and good will come of it; use it for ill and ill will come of it. Seeing as you brought me in here, I will say this. I don't take on board feedback taht goes along the lines of "You beat us in an unfair fight". If people break the rules report them. If someone is straying from roleplay, tell the faction. Otherwise, learn to live in a dangerous future.
BHG| members who continue to stoke the flames in this little theatre of cruelty will realise that you are a player here first and faction member second.
Hate the Order in role-play. It smells nicer.
You have been warned. I will not tolerate members who defy requests to behave in an appropriate manner on the forums while discussing events experienced on their faction character.
The best way to deal with the Order is to destroy their ships. And anyone in the BHG| who complains about getting ganked had best grow a pair of cojones.
Anyway, TCG|.
Saviours of humanity eh? Release the bombers. Threshers. You know what I mean.
Uh I just woke up, went on the forum..and how nice hehe
Well a couple of words from me, because I wasn`t there in previous occasions TCG had in game, when we are accused of something I would like a proof. I will take an objective stand on it. If my fellow players did it wrong I will tell them they did, if not I will support them, is simple as that.
It is not easy to be calmed when we got many accusations in and out of the game. I have a slight feeling that good part of community doesn`t like us. Yes respect is earned, we are hear to earn it, without you giving us a chance there is no much point in trying. Anyway we had our mistakes, inRP,ooRP and we admit it. Yes some of us have temper I admit that to. That probably took us where we are now.
The accusations I see all happened in the past, I hope that someone will comment on our everyday RP ingame. Remembering only our mistakes that we admitted and pointing them out everytime you hear our name doesn`t give us any courage to be better.
And I hope you will keep giving us feedback, but please, do it without ironic mocking tone. We take this serious so the ones who want to post I want you to do the same. I accept every constructive comment considering our RP and our behavior in general, but the people who come to just mock on mistake TCG did, well I don`t mind but open a topic only for doing that. When somebody takes it personal in this game, I try to make him realize that it`s just a game. As much my fellow players took something personal, I see on this forum part of you took it personal as well from them.
' Wrote:The fact is there is a screenshot from a Keeper to TCG stating Order| vessels told them to fire on us.
So until there is real proof this didnt happen , we will just acknowledge it did.
Funny at the time of this incident when its fresh in his mind he told us this , now he suddenly forgets hmm cmon.
Sort out your own backyard before trying to clean others.
I asked him to show screenshots where Order| player is saying it, he gave none.
If this is the screenshot which you are talking about, and if you have nothing else, then I am done with this.
Nothing else has reached me, if it did I would react differently and tried to deal with it.
@ Nooblet, I understand why you asked those screen logs. I tried to get them aswell, I failed, if anyone else can do it to enlighten me please But otherwise I won't act on speculations which are backuped with 1 screenshot which isn't even clear enough and does not mention certain name.
I spoke with 2 keepers who were there and none of them knows/doesn't remember the name, which isn't my problem really. I have done my part in this, and don't want to bother anymore with it.
@Primitive, yea, pretty much same as my opinion, but if people will always try to think there is some conspiracy against them, some unclear acts in past, and trying to use it as excuse for their mistakes then I am done here.
I gave my opinion on TCG before already. I wouldn't even posted here, if Waratah didn't brought Order| in it, trying to find an excuse in our acts to justify TCG mistakes.
1. Some order player did told them to attack us, I don`t say it was Order|
2. Marley insult someone
1. I would like the one that did that to say so, so we can get over this mess, stabbing us in the back in the game because of lack or RP that some our players have is not a good way to learn them...point them out RP is important part and it make PVP alot much fun when there is a little cooking up before it.
2. Not sure is Marley still with us I don`t keep the rooster, but if he is, I will sure talk to him cause anger doesn`t have place in this game, and I don`t approve it
Let me put it this way, If in that SS it was from a TCG member to
the Keeper asking him to attack Order| the logs would be found,
TCG would be hostile to Order, and there would be knives flying everywhere.
But its the other way around so i guess the logs stay missing.
The Keepers were not approached by the Order in any official fashion and asked to specifically target TCG members. What happened here was the result of an agreement between two players that was made without the knowledge of neither the Keepers's nor the Order|'s leadership.
That being said - I highly dislike the TCG and the Keepers have had a fair share of highly unpleasant experiences with it. Nonetheless, one of our faction's most important rules is to strictly keep OOC and IC business apart, and by getting involved in an interfaction battle between the aforementioned group and the Order|, Anzu (which was the one who made that...controversial statement in the screenshot presented above) violated it and will have to face consequences for his action.
Oh, and - thank you for swiftly bringing this to my attention rather than bickering about it for hours.
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