Corsair - Zoner

[Reacher]

I already said it before: If certain Zoners wish to be on neutral to friendly terms with Corsairs then they should open up a comms thread to the Elders/Official factions and prove their worth.

OSI has done it and they are cool... (not with TBH though)


You're Zoners. Be diplomatic... Negotiate.

Cause if you don't we're gonna get old school CR on your butts and squeeze on your spines until they crumble into dust [/Propaganda] (Kaze, Panzer, Pavel, Jansen, & Aphil know what I mean)

[Jinx]

darth - i have tried to tell you how you get - what you wish for .... ( or what transpired what you wished in your funny reply some pages ago )

IF your wish is to make a bold roleplay move for change. - i am not here to discuss how you get your rush of pvp fun - you grab that anyway - you don t need advice.

what i wrote is a tutorial how to become more than just someone who makes a silly demand that everyone knows - ends up in a pvp that ... and let me say that again ... "should not happen".

interpret the lore however you like. - corsairs seizing theta is like zoners seizing gamma. it s nothing but a laughing matter. - its like telling a trader: "give me 3 billion or i kill you" - thats not a choice - thats what we call "an unreasonable demand".




if you want real change - try multilateral roleplay. roleplay is not "me, mine, i" - roleplay is "us and we". this comes from experience how to get something into the lore that you wish for. - you don t work all alone - you worth TOGETHER - with other players.

in terms of communication, discussion and anything else - we are all players. - what factions we play is irrelevant for that matter. you are NEVER disrespectful towards another player - you can leave that to the roleplay. you never troll another player, cause you know nothing of that player. a community like ours can only work when everyone is kind and helpful - when everyone is able to work on things together.

never think of "what my faction deserves to get" - think of "how can i improve the enviroment for ALL of the ppl in the ZoI i care of" - thats where beneficial things start. your freedom ends - where it starts to limit other players freedom. - once that happens, communication must start. that is - roleplaying - that is multilateral thinking.

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[Madvillain]

never think of "what my faction deserves to get" - think of "how can i improve the enviroment for ALL of the ppl in the ZoI i care of" - thats where beneficial things start. your freedom ends - where it starts to limit other players freedom. - once that happens, communication must start. that is - roleplaying - that is multilateral thinking.

Funny , that you instantly assume that I didn't have OORP talks with the administation of freeport 5.
I find this conversation on the other hand , turning into a silly trail by forum like thing.

edit: Jinx at least has constructive critisism

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[DarthBindo]

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Roleplaying is playing a role.
The multilateral actions of writing stories, adding lore, developing systems and factions that is the dev's work.
We play the roles given to us by the developers, and the fact is that if one does not think as a character, "How can i get more?" one is failing to play the role properly.

if you want real change - try multilateral roleplay. roleplay is not "me, mine, i" - roleplay is "us and we". this comes from experience how to get something into the lore that you wish for. - you don t work all alone - you worth TOGETHER - with other players.

Multilateral roleplay is two or more players playing the roles of their chosen characters, and the dice falling where they will.
It is conflict and desire that drives interaction on our server; moreover, in real life.
We are given an arena in which to choose characters (as few or many as you want) and then play their roles, doing what they would do, for better or for worse, interacting with each other, both in friendliness, and in hostility.
As a pirate I shall work with other pirates to increase my personal gain; as a lawful I shall uphold the law and make safe my House, fighting my government's enemies; as a trader I shall work for the good of my company and the good of my bottom line; as a Molly I shall work for the freedom of Dublin and the end of tyranny; and as a Corsair or an Outcast, I shall work to strengthen my own, weaken my enemies, make safe my territories; destroy my enemies safe harbours; increase the trade of my people's products; and expand my influence.

never think of "what my faction deserves to get" - think of "how can i improve the enviroment for ALL of the ppl in the ZoI i care of" - thats where beneficial things start. your freedom ends - where it starts to limit other players freedom. - once that happens, communication must start. that is - roleplaying - that is multilateral thinking.

All players have absolute freedom.
Our characters, on the other hand, do not.
What my Corsair character does to your Zoner character is in no way impinging on your freedom as a player.
You are free to even roll up a Corsair if you wish, or avoid the matter entirely, go play a Gallic or Kusari ( or take your Zoner to Liberty or the Taus).
I don't have a faction. I have many factions that I am a part of (For clarification, perhaps I should list the factions of my favorite characters: Molly, Freelancer, Liberty Navy, Corsair, Freelancer, Interspace Commerce, GMG, KNF, Junker, and, believe it or not, Zoner), and whenever I play each individual character I take on that character's mindset (i.e playing the role of that character).
There are factions I am of course more strongly associated with. The factions I have led (Corsair, Molly, Interspace Commerce), the ones that I throuroughly enjoy taking part in the diplomacy of (also Corsair, Molly, Interspace Commerce).
My characters do what they will to improve their position, spread their ideals, whatever it is that they are individually motivated by.
That is roleplaying, and I am more and more incensed that I, as a player ,have to defend what I believe my character would do; i.e follow orders from my Generalissimo and the Council, work for the good of a Imperii, and shoot those who harbor his enemies.

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[globalplayer-svk]

OK, for those that are screaming how corsairs are bad when they are shooting zoners and freeports are neutral and other things... just one question..

this is roleplay server, which mean we all play ROLES of our characters..

now say me
How can be my Globalo NEUTRAL (in roleplay) to zoners when he see on his own eyes day after day hessian/outcast/Mandalorian/RR/put every faction you will ships undocking from base that is TOLERATED and yes toleraded in backdoor of corsair home system.
and i repeat its tolerated because in rp, nothing can protect station when corsair empire decide to destroy it when it is so close to gamma...
so now explain me, how the hell can be globalo neutral to zoners after looking on this every day...

and maybe you find that it is not bad/stupid/lol/something for corsairs to shoot zoners for harboring enemies, but it is stupid from zoners to scream that they are neutral....


EDIT: and jinx,,, lore... well lore is nice thing, but where in lore are hessian battleships,mandalorian mercenaries, RR, or other things that are reason of this last problem????

or you will answer : lore has adapted? in one part yes in other no ?:)
neutrality is something very nice, but possible only in way when you allow NOONE to use something that you maked or you own against someone other... in the moment you allow it, you lost your neutrality....
live with it,,,

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[... kur nubėgo?]

Of course its the attitude they have had. The corsairs keep trying to start another war when they already have a 2-front battle ongoing. Corsairs refuse to roleplay their factions weakness, so why should zoners cave in and do it if the sairs refuse to? goes both ways.

FFS there is no war except for the one with hessians. How many times we need to get over this. Sair - OC sometimes patrols of these two particular groups clashes then they are happen to be in the same system. Sigma 13 for example. But apart from random pew pews and inability to share zones of influence there is nothing more about it.

Sairs - Mollies. Some sair patrols venture to dublin.. Mollies sees those patrols as a threat. And don't want sairs to make such thing a constant habbit. So they try to pew pew them out of the system.

Some sairs raid cambrige tradelanes for goods to bring to Cadiz. Sometimes lawful groups tries to push them back to their omega 5.

Sometimes sairs ventures to rheinland. Same as bretonia.

The only war which is actually planned and real war operations are happening is Hessian - Sair one. That's it. There are no other fronts.

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[Lunaphase]

And thus you prove my point. you ignore your factions lore and expect zoners to curl up and die when glared at. Deal with it.

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[DarthBindo]

And thus you prove my point. you ignore your factions lore and expect zoners to curl up and die when glared at. Deal with it.

Both of you are more or less incorrect.
Are the Corsairs involved in more than one war?
Yes.
But at the same time, most of those wars are based purely on Corsair aggression.
The wars in which they are getting attacked are the Hessian-dasWilde war in Omega 5/41, and the Hispanic War in the Sigmas and Omicron Eta.
Their other various conflicts are raiding parties from O-49 to Dublin, raiding parties from O-5 to O3 and O7, and a one-off attempted invasion of (frankfurt?) i think, idk, whatever the Road to Rheinland was (before my time).
But it makes no less true the fact the Omega-41 and Omicron Theta are Corsair space, behind Corsair battle lines, under Corsair guns, along the two major Corsair resupply/repair/reinforcement lines.
That a battlefleet sent to reenforce Casablanca can't stop along the way and blow up few Zoners or a base to smithereens is hardly ignoring faction lore.

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[Zelot]

And thus you prove my point. you ignore your factions lore and expect zoners to curl up and die when glared at. Deal with it.

And thus you prove my point that you know nothing of the lore. You just like to whine and obviuosly have a problem with canon sair rp.

Edit: And to Jinx, instead of complaining about things oorp, how bout you and your faction try to solve the problem.. Hmmm? This would all have been over with an FR5, but because you are zoners, you dont think you have to take responsibility for who docks on your bases, well, every faction does and so do you. Either crap or get off the pot and let someone else. Don't complain, solve things.

Oh, and by the way, I had a long discussion with Doc about what we are doing in an oorp way, so you should be happy with that and let us move on.

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[Lunaphase]

Corsairs attacking zoners is actually a non-cannon rp development, zelot. furthermore an admin ruling during the GMG/kusari war indicated independants could not be forced to go along with the non-cannon RP.

As an admin your responsibility is to uphold those rulings because they are server rules, not promote a paper-thin escuse to fire upon transports with no guns and anything in the area.

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