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[Wesker]

90% on LABC with HF indie ID plz

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[Pavel]

That sounds nice, the problem is when all mining commodities of Bretonia (gold, beryllium, hydrocarbons) are now targetting Rheinland sellpoints. With this nerf, Bretonia does not have a mining commodity which is meant for Liberty.

Balancing trade routes should take into account more aspects, such as variation.

That is a good thing, isn't it? If anything, Liberty isn't the house which needs activity.

[Mark_Brown]

That sounds nice, the problem is when all mining commodities of Bretonia (gold, beryllium, hydrocarbons) are now targetting Rheinland sellpoints. With this nerf, Bretonia does not have a mining commodity which is meant for Liberty.

Balancing trade routes should take into account more aspects, such as variation.

That is a good thing, isn't it? If anything, Liberty isn't the house which needs activity.

Quick one...

Where is there a good place to sell: (gold, beryllium, hydrocarbons) in Kusari?

Thanks.

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[WesternPeregrine]

Quick one...

Where is there a good place to sell: (gold, beryllium, hydrocarbons) in Kusari?

Thanks.

Kusari has long been known the be a good consumer of Gold (and Gold Ore rushes in the past), ending in Roppongi station or Narita (?).

On the other hand, Kusari has been a supplier of Hydrocarbons (regular and Raw), due to the exploration sites in Tau-29 by Kishiro and Samura. It only has a last resort sellpoint for Ore at best.

Beryllium coming from the now Gallic mining sites in the Taus would be the closest supplier, and should have a relatively small sellpoint somewhere in Kusari, for those not bothering to go to Liberty or Rheinland with it.

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[Corile]

That sounds nice, the problem is when all mining commodities of Bretonia (gold, beryllium, hydrocarbons) are now targetting Rheinland sellpoints. With this nerf, Bretonia does not have a mining commodity which is meant for Liberty.

Balancing trade routes should take into account more aspects, such as variation.

That is a good thing, isn't it? If anything, Liberty isn't the house which needs activity.

Quick one...

Where is there a good place to sell: (gold, beryllium, hydrocarbons) in Kusari?

Thanks.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=132276

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[Starflier]

That is a good thing, isn't it? If anything, Liberty isn't the house which needs activity.

Nope.

1. I will try to explain it with a personal example. Back in April and May, Bowex) had two or three players who were its basic workforce, the guys who ranked 2-3 days of activity each month. Obviously these guys trade to make profits so they exported ore commodities. However they got tired in the end because the most profitable route by far was to get the ore to Rheinland. They are now gone. I used to escort them. Got tired in the end too because of lack of action and because of the same old route. I have a total of 70 hours on my Bowex) and I never entered a system in Liberty, can you believe it? So giving to an entire House the option to export elsewhere ore too (in the same levels of profit - otherwise people won't do it), is very important. And it matters a lot.

2. Variation is an important aspect. Keeps the interest high. That's why IMG| scores constantly so high in activity levels ever since the mining feature was introduced. They mine one day in Tau-23, another day in Omega-7, and another day in Dublin. Same work, different routes. Members see different routes, work on different fields and they like it.

3. Based on this train of thought, that also affects negatively the corporations of Liberty.

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[Lord.MacRae]

That is a good thing, isn't it? If anything, Liberty isn't the house which needs activity.

So you prefer to kill one activity to try to force activity somewhere else? Why not have both?

So giving to an entire House the option to export elsewhere ore too (in the same levels of profit - otherwise people won't do it), is very important. And it matters a lot.

2. Variation is an important aspect. Keeps the interest high.

+1

[jammi]

That sounds nice, the problem is when all mining commodities of Bretonia (gold, beryllium, hydrocarbons) are now targetting Rheinland sellpoints. With this nerf, Bretonia does not have a mining commodity which is meant for Liberty.

Balancing trade routes should take into account more aspects, such as variation.

That is a good thing, isn't it? If anything, Liberty isn't the house which needs activity.

So what you're saying is that Liberty's corporate factions deserve to be punished because they unfortunately happen to have the server's start point located in one of their systems? Liberty has historically been afflicted by terrible ore balance from the mining mod's inception, which was generally handwaved with excuses like, "well, it's not like Liberty needs it, do they?"

Frankly, that's a terrible excuse, and only leads to sections of the playerbase being unfairly burdened by sub-par routes. It also reduces variation as Starflier and MacRae have stated, which is even more detrimental because people who get bored stop playing. Liberty's activity has generally been fairly lopsided in any case, with lots of pirates and military but a proportional dearth of corporate activity partially due to systematic, intentional neglect when it comes to ore balancing.

Honestly, I'd expect a less flippant attitude from the staff that are responsible for implementing ore prices in a manner that fosters good gameplay and preserves the server's overall wellbeing. I'd actually advocate for Pittsburgh to be rebalanced from an Omega 3 mining point, seeing as Manchester is no longer being considered a primary mining site.

Ores really shouldn't have optimal buy sites in the House that their mining system borders. Rebalancing to Pittsburgh Omega 3 would be particularly beneficial, seeing as it mines around twice as fast as Manchester. Based on that, a buff to Pittsburgh would enable a decent, medium-to-long route through to Liberty, while Manchester is still preserved as a slow, secondary field that isn't entirely useless.

[Stoner_Steve]

A little on topic perhaps, but maybe its time to move the server boosted route

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[Karst]

People, there's no point discussing mining balance here. Yes, it's broken as hell. I think we all know that.
A minor change in drop rates in one field is a drop in the ocean.

Bigger changes are surely coming.

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