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Bulldog Replacement
Offline Tenacity
07-31-2009, 05:57 PM,
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I'll angle the fins when I get home from work, dont have time now, gotta scram >.<

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Offline Heartless
07-31-2009, 06:13 PM,
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I have to say Tenacity, that is a very very well done ship and it looks amazing. I love your attention to detail, definitely worth flying.

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Offline Galacius
07-31-2009, 08:54 PM,
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If you have time why not trying to make the nose and side a bit more angled? I you dont feel this way but I feel the bulldog is the sports car of the junker lineup and should be a bit more swoopy, not much but a bit more. Well whatever I do like it as it is but just wish for a slight bit more swoopyness.

Also my question remains about the size. Cause if its much bigger then the current bulldog (hard to hit) its gonna be painfull to fly in.
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Offline Shaka
07-31-2009, 09:57 PM,
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' Wrote:If you have time why not trying to make the nose and side a bit more angled? I you dont feel this way but I feel the bulldog is the sports car of the junker lineup and should be a bit more swoopy, not much but a bit more. Well whatever I do like it as it is but just wish for a slight bit more swoopyness.

Also my question remains about the size. Cause if its much bigger then the current bulldog (hard to hit) its gonna be painfull to fly in.


If you look closely, he's kept the approximate dimensions the same. Even the engines are similarly spaced.

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Offline Tenacity
08-01-2009, 03:38 AM,
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' Wrote:If you have time why not trying to make the nose and side a bit more angled? I you dont feel this way but I feel the bulldog is the sports car of the junker lineup and should be a bit more swoopy, not much but a bit more. Well whatever I do like it as it is but just wish for a slight bit more swoopyness.

Also my question remains about the size. Cause if its much bigger then the current bulldog (hard to hit) its gonna be painfull to fly in.

Thing is, I'm not doing this as an addition to the sirius junker lineup, I'm doing it to create a seperate shipline for gallic junkers. Gallic junkers play a fairly different role than Sirius junkers, they have different needs and deserve their own ship line. If it were up to me I'd give them their own guns and ID as well, but that's left to the other modders.

Now, I have come up with some sketches that I'll be modelling today, based on this same ship. I'm keeping the same general body of the current model, but as shown before I'll be making the engine pylons shorter and making the ship a bit less thin for a light fighter model. I'm also going to make a seperate model with extra engines and a wider body for a bomber.

For now, how's this for the angular fins?:

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Offline Thexare
08-01-2009, 03:55 AM,
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' Wrote:Thing is, I'm not doing this as an addition to the sirius junker lineup, I'm doing it to create a seperate shipline for gallic junkers.
And what about those Junkers in Sirius who'd like to keep using their Bulldogs? I would think that any replacement should be able to serve the same role the original ship did...
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Offline Tenacity
08-01-2009, 03:59 AM,
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All depends on how the gallic developers feel, and how we word the infocard. Could be that once the way to gallia was open, there were plenty of the fighters available and many Sirius junkers obtained them from gallia. However, I'd prefer to keep them inside of gallia.

Thing is, while the ship needs to be replaced due to being an import model, right now it really serves no purpose with Sirius junkers. Only a few players fly it, and generally speaking the collector is a better pvp vessel. Gallia is based around the use of heavy fighters, whereas sirius is based on the use of VHF's, and the bulldog's current stats fit it perfectly into the gallic combat environment.

Things change, a lot of players had to give up ships in the transition from 4.84 to 4.85, just be glad it isnt a capital ship worth millions =P

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Offline Galacius
08-01-2009, 04:12 PM,
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' Wrote:All depends on how the gallic developers feel, and how we word the infocard. Could be that once the way to gallia was open, there were plenty of the fighters available and many Sirius junkers obtained them from gallia. However, I'd prefer to keep them inside of gallia.

Thing is, while the ship needs to be replaced due to being an import model, right now it really serves no purpose with Sirius junkers. Only a few players fly it, and generally speaking the collector is a better pvp vessel. Gallia is based around the use of heavy fighters, whereas sirius is based on the use of VHF's, and the bulldog's current stats fit it perfectly into the gallic combat environment.

Things change, a lot of players had to give up ships in the transition from 4.84 to 4.85, just be glad it isnt a capital ship worth millions =P

I must highly disagree about the collector being better. The bulldog is ferocious when used right just because its so highly impossible to hit and can mount and use mini razor + cd. Now the question remains if you dont mess with the stats are you going to give it that hard to hitness that the current bulldog can use to such avail?

Also I dont agree if your going to make this gallia only at all. If your going to do that you need to put in a ship that fills the bulldogs role.

Edit since I forgot to mention it

Not quite sure what to make of the new fins, I think they are a bit better though.
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Offline Canadianguy
08-02-2009, 04:06 AM,
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The only thing that should be done is making it pretty much the same colors as the CSV and others. It should be available everywhere for junkers.

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Offline Tenacity
08-02-2009, 04:27 AM,
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' Wrote:The only thing that should be done is making it pretty much the same colors as the CSV and others. It should be available everywhere for junkers.

already been discussed, these models are for gallic junkers. They probably dont even use the same kind of metal in their ships that the sirius junkers do.

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