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Offline Sprolf
03-18-2010, 04:00 PM,
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Muahahahaha.
My plans are coming together.

 
Offline Zapp
03-18-2010, 07:57 PM,
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Yes, I'm against these "Ghost Ship" Osirises. But this?

' Wrote:That being said - this is a Science Fiction roleplaying server, not Pirates of the Carribean (where the undead actually are pretty cool). Ghosts, at least in the way you're describing them as, have no place here.

That's not the reason to be against them. I find it interesting how many people are so closed-minded as to dismiss ghosts as out of the range of feasibility to RP. Sure, the way these guys are doing it is wrong: but there is a right way, a way that doesn't exactly make it apparent that you're flying a ghost ship. "What's wrong with that ship? Faulty AI? Coolant leak? People pretending to be ghosts?"

Flying up to someone and saying you're a ghost is just plain stupid. If anyone does that they're crazy, not a ghost.

Equally stupid is rejecting someone's RP out of hand simply because it doesn't conform to your thought on what 'science fiction' means.

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Offline kuth
03-18-2010, 08:19 PM,
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' Wrote:Equally stupid is rejecting someone's RP out of hand simply because it doesn't conform to your thought on what 'science fiction' or 'RP' means.

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Offline FooFighter
03-18-2010, 09:40 PM,
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Zapp Wrote:I find it interesting how many people are so closed-minded as to dismiss ghosts as out of the range of feasibility to RP.

Perhaps it's because, you know, ghosts do not exist and, in the form the OP is describing them, cannot exist on Disco either?

Don't take me wrong, I'd have no problem with a ship *appearing* to be a ghost ship - that actually could serve as the foundation for some quite awesome RP, at least for a limited time. Something spirit-ish created by Nomad/DK artifacts could be cool, too. There's quite a lot that's possible within the established boundaries of science fiction Discovery has, but nonetheless, for the sake of a consistent RP environment, we have to respect them, lest we'll descend into chaos with angels and demons and angel-demon-half-god hybrids warring for supremacy while the Angry Marines go in purging xenos and heretics alike because they've had it with these motherfrakking enemies of man on this motherfrakking server and think strapping in and opening some frakking windows would be a good idea.

Also, thank you for your valuable contribution, Kuthumii.
Offline kuth
03-18-2010, 09:49 PM,
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' Wrote:Perhaps it's because, you know, ghosts do not exist and, in the form the OP is describing them, cannot exist on Disco either?

Phantoms don't exist. Nomads don't exist.

Get it through your head. This is fiction. Ghost can exist within the realm of a fictional universe.

While I didn't enjoy this bunch the last time they were here, I am willing to give them another shot. Do I want to see increased RP from them? No doubt.

How about you people quit shooting down other people's RP ideas because they aren't in line with what you think is reasonable. This is a fictional universe.

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Offline Zapp
03-18-2010, 09:50 PM,
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They don't exist? I think they don't exist as well, but who's to say they don't? Who has concrete empirical evidence that ghosts don't exist?

Who, for that matter, has the same to say God, angels and demons don't exist?

The difference between the two is that playing the latter intrinsically grants 'God-mode', super-human, powers. Playing a ghost doesn't necessarily give that on you. I'm fine with people playing what they want as long as what they're doing doesn't give them some sort of 'power-game' (not counting Nomads, which have telepathy mind-tricks going for them) and they can do it responsibly.

Note that these Ghost.Ship folk(s) haven't done what they do responsibly.


EDIT: Also what Kuthumii said.

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Offline ryoken
03-18-2010, 09:56 PM,
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I say let them atleast try,and see what happen's. Never know, they may surprise you. Atleast they are not in NY:D

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Offline FooFighter
03-18-2010, 11:12 PM,
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Kuthumii, again - science fiction. Fiction distinct from fantasy in that it (usually and certainly in the case of FL/Disco) bases itself on reality and advances it through science and technology, not supernatural elements.

There's nothing unscientific about the Phantoms. There's nothing unscientific about the Nomads either, although they certainly use technology human science is unable to grasp. Ghosts are, and consider their impact on our virtual universe. If they exist, certainly there has to be an afterlife, every human must have a soul, etc...all things we've so far either rejected or deliberately left ambiguous in our universe.

Maybe you don't care. Maybe Zapp doesn't care. Maybe I care too much, for I am a raving hard sci-fi-nut (WHERE'S MY TECHNOLOGICAL TECHNOLOGY!?). But the majority of our roleplaying playerbase is here to RP within a science fiction universe (and would never accept ghosts as canon RP), and most of them also share my belief that ghosts belong into a fantasy world, not the semi-scientific world of Discovery.

Zapp Wrote:They don't exist? I think they don't exist as well, but who's to say they don't? Who has concrete empirical evidence that ghosts don't exist?

They don't just "don't exist", they are what is called "not even wrong" - and thus have no place within science or science fiction.
Online Jeremy Hunter
03-19-2010, 12:27 AM,
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Intresting idea.

ANd I agree with Tenacity.

You're not neutral with us. Invade our space and I personally will give you a SNAC.
Plus so will all other bombers who want to, and any caps.

Out of my Order persona (which is my RL persona :cool:), Its a real good RP thing.

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Offline JW.corsair
03-19-2010, 01:29 AM,
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' Wrote:Intresting idea.

ANd I agree with Tenacity.

You're not neutral with us. Invade our space and I personally will give you a SNAC.
Plus so will all other bombers who want to, and any caps.

Get the ID and Iff straightened out. Also I will join in if you invade our space again.

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Honour above all!

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