Gallic propulsion

[Ingenious]

The logical progression is for new Gallic engines (like the Navy/Police line) to start using H-fuel engines since Oil is grossly inefficient. Old Gallic ships (like the civilian line) would, logically, stay on Oil.

Do you agree?

[r3vange]

[color=#FFFFFF]Nope, Gallia's independent if it uses it's own Oil

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[Ingenious]

[color=#FFFFFF]Nope, Gallia's independent if it uses it's own Oil

Gallia's independent if they forcefully requisition H-fuel from the Kusari nebulas. I don't see the difference.

[Montezuma/Kukulcan]

No, Gallic (GRN at least) engines don't run on oil, they run on a refined form of it. And Gallic engines are so much more advanced and efficient than 20th century combustion engines, so it's actually an efficient and effective form of propulsion (you have to remember, we're over a thousand years in the future, technology is a lot different).

Gallia also has a pretty much limitless supply of oil according to the oil infocard, so even if they were inefficient, it wouldn't make much difference. All Gallic ships are designed to run on oil-based fuel, so changing them into H-fuel powered ships would be extremely impractical, and rather impossible. Oil is also produced in Gallia, whereas H-fuel is not, meaning to supply Gallia's massive fleets, they'd need to be dependent on a third party, a Sirian one at that, which would be a stupid decision.

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[Ingenious]

No, Gallic (GRN at least) engines don't run on oil, they run on a refined form of it. And Gallic engines are so much more advanced and efficient than 20th century combustion engines, so it's actually an efficient form of propulsion.

Can you provide more fluff detail? I am a physics major and I am curious.

[AeternusDoleo]

The logical progression is for new Gallic engines (like the Navy/Police line) to start using H-fuel engines since Oil is grossly inefficient. Old Gallic ships (like the civilian line) would, logically, stay on Oil.

Do you agree?

For the factions that are forced out of Gallia (the Council, Brigand and Maquis that will be leaving for Rousillion), yes, those ships would likely start using H as oil becomes unavailable. Ships that Gallia itself uses... The royals see gallic tech as inferior, and H fuel won't be available in large quantities to it initially. They'd keep using proven tech.

The H nebulas are deep inside Kusari, and GRN's main charge is not headed there. Their vengeance is on Bretonia:)

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[r3vange]

Can you provide more fluff detail? I am a physics major and I am curious.

[color=#FFFFFF]Sorry to troll you but I'm final year aerospace engineering student and If I try to apply my knowledge to FL my head explodes due to incompatible patterns....

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[Montezuma/Kukulcan]

Can you provide more fluff detail? I am a physics major and I am curious.

Sadly not, a lot of FL is left to the imagination, just imagine that, over a thousand years in the future, we're all flying around in cheap space-craft and have colonised hundreds of systems in a far-off part of the galaxy and are fighting aliens for control of it.

Now, into that rather far-fetched context, imagine that the largest and most powerful nation in existence has been isolated for the last 730ish years, has an unlimited supply of oil, and has spent all that time developing a extremely advanced ships, weapons and whatnot, and have combustion based engines advanced enough to rival, or even surpass fusion based engines. It's not really that fantastical given the grand scheme of things when it comes to FL/Disco.


Also, the GMG wouldn't be able to keep the GRN running if they did for some reason decide to switch to H-fuel, the GRN is extremely huge, almost as big as the navies of all four vanilla houses combined.


And IIRC, all large ships run on MOX, not H-fuel, which is yet another different fuel source, and is entirely controlled by Bretonia and Rheinland.

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[Ceoran]

And try to ignore that said house is french:wacko:

On topic: Forcefully requisitioning Kusaris H-Fuel nebulas would be an illogical move. Gallia revealed themselves too earlier (or got revealed) hence they will only go at war against two of the houses at the same time. Including a third one into that war just to get alternate fuel while having a working system already looks like taking an unnecessary risk to me.

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[Friday]

Exploring the science, there is only one logical conclusion I can come to regarding Gallic Oil.

I put it to you that it is not the Carbon in the Oil that is being used by Gallic ships, just as it is not the Oxygen inside Heavy Water that might be used in fusion reactors.

Wherever you have hydrogen in a compound - you could potentially have Deuterium instead.

When Deuterium replaces hydrogen in water (H20) - you have Heavy Water.

Now when Deuterium replaces hydrogen, in a hydrocarbon - you have Heavy Oil.

I put it to you guys that companies like EFL 'crack' their Heavy Oil, and the ships actually run on Deuterium.

You can argue that water-based sources of Deuterium (like found on Gran Canaria) are rare - because the Dom Kovash depleted them in the early history of their civilisation.

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