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Avalanche · 07-21-2011, 10:37 PM,

3 of the odins are personally used, 4th is shared. Sorry no more left.

Govedo13 · (This post was last modified: 07-21-2011, 11:02 PM by Govedo13.)

' Wrote:It would be really better for you to attack the Corsairs.
You guys shouldn't ally with Rheinlanders if you are hostile to KNF. They are both invaders.

Why should we attack the corsairs first? It is all depending on the situation really if the bretonian ships are easier targets why should we waste our forces to attack the much stronger corsairs in that point?
You fail to see that from the Molly PoV all are invaders. One invader more dead is gain for Mollys whatever if this is BAF one or Corsair one. It makes sense to kill them all ( it is what we do ) in order witch pleasures us and fits in the our RP ideas of our faction not of the BAF ideas about Molly Faction. The best RP in this situation is to destroy as much possible enemy ships while minimising the losses from our side- this is the normal logic that make sense. Read the Molly lore- Mollys fight dirty.

The IMGs also had some wrong impression about the Mollys when we started, I really does not understand this and I will say it for may be 5th or 6th time. We are after vanilla Molly RP, the Vanilla Mollys are not what the previous Molly factions were, we are not BAF buddies or helpers ,we also wont make any Peace agreements with bretonian government , you need to get used to it in one way or other.
After answering the 5th BAF member who gave us negative feedback I start to wonder where this would stop?
You started with Odins, then meta-gaming, power-gaming, lack of RP in the forums,accusing us of PvP whoring and dictating us what kind of diplomatic relations should we have, giving us a order in witch we should pick our targets. We proved you wrong on all of this points. In general it was nice try and you gave us some publicity and the opportunity to clear up some points.
May you stop now? It is even not funny any-more or you can continue to entertain us anyway....
What should be next?

(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

Valinor · 07-22-2011, 02:19 AM,

Regarding the diplomacy thing, RHA are rheinlanders too, but shoots at the RM when they can, even when we are fighting the LN.

The LN would be considered the "invader", and yet, the RHA decides, from time to time, to shoot either at the RM, or the LN, or both.

This is perfectly fine for how i see it.

Besides, who knows, maybe the RM or KNF may offer at the Mollys something that the BAF didn't. Or they just want to strike all of those forces as much as they can, while trying to keep a balance.

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FallenKnight · 07-22-2011, 12:40 PM,

' Wrote:You started with Odins, then meta-gaming, power-gaming, lack of RP in the forums,accusing us of PvP whoring and dictating us what kind of diplomatic relations should we have, giving us a order in witch we should pick our targets. We proved you wrong on all of this points. In general it was nice try and you gave us some publicity and the opportunity to clear up some points.
May you stop now? It is even not funny any-more or you can continue to entertain us anyway....
What should be next?

Govedo, since you are bulgarian like me and clearly talking like a wrong politician, throwing words without to prove they are right, I see no reason for you to continue talking since, belive me, nobody from us is taking you seriously. Disco will always have people to talk and annoy others. Take some examples from your leader and learn from him.
~Avalanche is the leader and I allready appreciated his answers. He said everything he had to, to inform us about the molly unpredictable ways of fighting. All of us are now aware of that and will have it in mind next time. He didnt accused us or went wild, spamming words as yours. He answered to everything we said and that was enough. That is how faction leader should answer in faction feedbacks.

If you are pretending to become a member of this future official faction, act as an official member. That what I quoted from you, showing your pure OOC hatred. Calling an official faction "meta-gamers, power-gamers, lack or RP on FORUMS, accusing you in PVP" is very shcoking. We are led by one of the admins of the server and 2 Forum Moderators. Do you think we are doing what you said?? Are you telling us they three are not doing they job right?? "Lack of RP on forumS"??? Do you point at Dab and Alvin after everything they did?? (If you re reading this, dont start to prepare your cheap excuse, that is how we took your answer, as faction offend)
Seriously, in this game you need to have respect for everyone even if you character is cruel, and never mess ooc with rp.
Take what other people said here as an examples of the little problems in your faction and try to solve them or find a way by requesting for ideas. That is the meaning of the feedback.
~You and few others are not helping this faction to become official, if you continue to lack of matured responses.

P.S: The face of the faction is the leader and the faction members. Dont let yourself to ruin your faction.
P.S: I didnt said it to "slap" you or spam your feedback. Take it as an adivce. When you are requesting to go official, the people's responses here will be the vote if your faction is going to or not going to become official.

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Elven · 07-22-2011, 12:46 PM,

I'm BAF| member, and I approve [M] as it is.

Of course exluding those OOC arguments which happen here all the time. :|

Govedo13 · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2011, 02:15 PM by Govedo13.)

' Wrote:Yep, the last thing this server needs is officialized Skype-deal tech-sharing pvp-whoring nonsense.

' Wrote:Metagaming as a response to metagaming is unacceptable.

' Wrote:Ok, have fun powergaming Dublin.

' Wrote: but then excluding a part of the community who maybe could also bring things to it is unfair from my pov. Ya did the things so that only [M] and RHA know it for sure, ya did exclude all other, including indie Mollys.

' Wrote:I fail to see how no roleplay, is upholding the highest quality of roleplay. Even bad roleplay is better than no roleplay.

' Wrote:2. Basic information now: The mollies from [M] now are nothing, from my experience so far against them, but ... pvp guys with less RP options.
So your reputation is shocking and not fixed yet.

' Wrote:[color=#FF0000]That what I quoted from you, showing your pure OOC hatred. Calling an official faction "meta-gamers, power-gamers, lack or RP on FORUMS, accusing you in PVP" is very shcoking.

I am not calling anyone anything here, I indeed find this kind of behaviour really shocking. It seems you fail in reading.That's why I hight-lined it to you.

(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

Ingenious · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2011, 02:14 PM by Ingenious.)

' Wrote:I am not calling anyone anything here. It seems you fail in reading.That's why I hight-lined it to you.

You may not be calling anyone anything, but it seems your faction has a very hard time accepting negative feedback.

SnakThree · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2011, 02:17 PM by SnakThree.)

It seems there is misunderstanding in point of views here. We simply are surprised how only BAF| members is giving negative feedback. After a lost fight.

And don't take this as insult. It simply is rather too convenient time for such feedback.

Govedo13 · 07-22-2011, 02:16 PM,

' Wrote:You may not be calling anyone anything, but it seems your faction has a very hard time accepting negative feedback.

Quite the opposite actually. We accept all kind of feedback- flaming and calling people names is not feedback it is and it is not accepted.

(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

Ingenious · 07-22-2011, 02:19 PM,

' Wrote:It seems there is misunderstanding in point of views here. We simply are surprised how only BAF| members is giving negative feedback. After a lost fight.

And don't take this as insult. It simply is rather too convenient time for such feedback.

' Wrote:Quite the opposite actually. We accept all kind of feedback- flaming and calling people names is not feedback it is and it is not accepted.

You're selectively disregarding feedback based on whether or not you agree with the statements.

For what it's worth, I haven't fought any Mollies at all on my BAF character, so quit using strawmen.

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