' Wrote:The system's only use is PvP, and it completely undermined the actual Corsair/Outcast RP of their turf war in the Sigmas.
So what's more important, people? Having lolraids, or developing this mod with a view to roleplay?
You're forgetting that PvP is part of RP. Outcasts raiding Gamma and Corsairs raiding Alpha isn't undermining the turf war in the Sigmas. Eta did that by itself. Not to mention that isn't even the topic of this thread.
The topic is people upset that they can't sit in their home system and be 100% safe. It is Q_Q. Neither Alpha nor Gamma are as secure as a house capital system. If you don't like being shot at in either of those systems, quit sitting in them for hours on end. I do think adding some cap patrols might be wise though, as right now it is purely open space which is indeed absurd.
' Wrote:While powerful families exist on both sides, families aren't real alternative for military. To run an Osiris or a Sarissa, you need crew of qualified engineers, to start with. Then you need organised rank structure for people aboard, something none of those pocess.
Families do have rank structures. Look at any Sicilian or American Mafia in history. They had ranks. Even urban gangs have ranks.
' Wrote:Sometime during my 2 years here at disco, the fun of raiding gamma/alpha disappeared...
Then go somewhere else, do something else. Don't make a whine thread.
I don't see a problem in Corsairs being shot at by anyone, it was that way long ago and i as a sair player since my arrival on server got used to it already, more likely enjoing that semi-terrorist ID.
But problem is that people on server got too much cash for too much caps and getting chased by lolfest of gb\cruisers\bses while flying your lone Titan isn't fun at all.
Btw concerning capspam in gamma - It's common knowlege that Sabre with krakens is a way better then slow titan with it's salas in group fight. So when you cry next time about people bringing you something that isn't easy meat, something like solaris osirises - remember that all action having it's counter action and people always likes to play for the win. So deal with it or just gtfo from gamma.
Concerning alpha i can't say much since i played OC char on server for 2-3 hours in total but i remeber being chased by BS, cruiser, few tridents and like 5 sabres on my merc so i can imaging it's all the same.
So here is the conclusion: TOO MUCH CASH ON SERVER LOL, mining was bad idea.
P.S. BS patrols and stationed PWNplatforms are a bad idea, it is not encourages players for nothing but hugging those very objects in case of pissing their opponents off. We are experienicing that attitude from BAF players for a long time so i personnaly don't want to see something like that in Gamma.
houses wont be able to destroy Gamma/Alpha. In-rp their fleets will be ambushed in asteroid fields around and what survives is going to perish by full wraith of Corsairs/Outcasts. Which does not mean that you cant reach their system or make succesful raid with using snubcrafts... guerilla kind of warfare like GMG does in Omicron Beta.
From what I have read, a lot of people want more action in the Sigma systems. I agree wholeheartedly with that. I used to play back in 4.84 before RL intervened and I could not get my trader through the Sigma systems without getting OCed or 'Saired by all the players there because of the profitable run through there.
Anything that brings life to dead systems is good. I personally think that too much time has been spent pretty much begging players to go into Gallia. Seriously, all the updates are nice but so damn much of it is for Gallia that it makes me wonder whether any effort has been put into new systems for the rest of discovery.
I think that perhaps a ring of weapons platforms, similar to what the Xenos have in Tau-45 but a bit stronger would be nice, one in each system. Make it easy to get fighters/bombers/GBs in there and a bit more difficult for cruisers and severely damaging for BSes.
I am also in favor of just removing the Eta-Alpha JH and replacing it with an Eta-S-19/17 JH
' Wrote:You're forgetting that PvP is part of RP. Outcasts raiding Gamma and Corsairs raiding Alpha isn't undermining the turf war in the Sigmas. Eta did that by itself. Not to mention that isn't even the topic of this thread.
The topic is people upset that they can't sit in their home system and be 100% safe. It is Q_Q. Neither Alpha nor Gamma are as secure as a house capital system. If you don't like being shot at in either of those systems, quit sitting in them for hours on end. I do think adding some cap patrols might be wise though, as right now it is purely open space which is indeed absurd.
PvP does have a place in RP, but only when RP prompts that PvP. First, you have the setting, the lore. Second, you have the PvP that ensues as a result of that.
In an RP mod, every faction has a reason for shooting eachother. Not the other way around.
The point was that the only use of adding Eta to the mod in the first place was PvP. Take two big pirate factions, put a system right between them, watch the ****storm ensue. Perhaps that was cool back in 05 or so, when the system appeared, but in the meantime the server has made a lot of dramatic changes, especially towards more RP focus.
But I suppose it is off topic, slightly. Eta is the main reason people believe that the two pirate home systems are too unguarded. While these systems should be more turbulent than the other houses, it is a bit frustrating when all that divides you from your sworn enemy is... Eta. Therefore I don't see how talking about Eta is all that off topic.
They're mini houses, not to mention they were the "booby prizes" of Sirius colony positions. They shouldn't have the defense and stability that the other houses have, but they also still shouldn't have Eta smack between them.
' Wrote:The OC and Sairs are not, contrary to popular myth, houses. They are mini-houses. They do not have the same naval power as a house. Squads from each group are undoubtedly going to make it into the home system of the other.
Restrict capship usage for both corsairs and outcasts to stop this oorp lolwhuttery.
make it so that indy´s have to request official factions for permission to use a capship.
and what happened to the battleship license ?
the huge amount of capships in both gamma and alpha are a major oorp thing by itself.
seems like every loon owns a corsair capship (incl. me if i wasn't too lazy to grind for one)
another big problem is capship missiles insta killing snubs.
too many indy's use them without thinking , blowing up own forces....
there is not much room for rp in gamma (and probably alpha too)
thats strange because i thought this was an rp server
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