Current Sirius state of affairs between very unlikely alleys

[Adam_Spire]

The SCRA isn't the Coalition of Starlancer. Go read their message dump, their many stories, and talk with Alvin.

Not a single one of them which is reflected in their in game Role Play. If the SCRA wasnt the Coalition of Starlancer, they wouldnt visit the Omegas with cruisers and Gunboats to attack transports.

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[Jeremy Hunter]

You're Caps are retorted by a PM message I just sent to you. I'm not asking questions as if I just started playing the game. And those images go -way- beyond a simple docking right.

1. Who did you need help to fight int he Omegas? The Order was wining battles left and right against the Core and you had the full support of the Zoners. I don't buy it.
2. I have seen not a single shread of In game Role play to support this in any manor. Unless I have an above mentioned faction Tag, I'm a target. Period.
3. I must have missed this civil war. Was this before or after the Zoners starting attacking ships who attacked you?
4. If the SCRA fight for the working class, why do they hire the best mercs to take out working class ships? Would they mind if I delivered food to their home system? How about Ruffugees from a war torn planet to a free port near them? I think Id get hulled faster than I could say, "I surrender"

1. We needed help with the Wilde. And we havent been wimming battles left and right for awhile. We might have Zoner support, but the Order is not able to wage 3 wars st once, espeicslly one with multiple fronts, without help.
2. Read our MD from when Alvin took over. Its gotten alot less "TAKE OVER DIEDIE" and more "PoliticsPoliticsPolitics".
3. Lets see, around a year ago. The incident at Freeport One was because Tsiolkovksy was trapped and was fired upon,in the NFZ. I should know; I was talking with both the FP1 defenders, Tsiol, and was .5k from them on WV-Ghost.Eye, the same cruiser who was renamed Order|WV-Ghost.Eye.
4. Ok, Im calling you on that. Bullshaaat. Bullshat. We do not hire mercenaries, we do not hole stuff faster than you can say "I surrender." Excuse me, TWO REAVER INVASIONS in 52, two reaver attacks out of Omega 52. As for others mercs, sorry, we don't do soldiers for hire. Thats against the RP.


Edit: an addendum.

Spire, I had no knowledge of that, since thats the Faction leader. And, as he had done with CR, it could just be him only, not the entire Order. Agsin, I had no clue about that.

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[jammi]

You're Caps are retorted by a PM message I just sent to you. I'm not asking questions as if I just started playing the game. And those images go -way- beyond a simple docking right.

1. Who did you need help to fight int he Omegas? The Order was wining battles left and right against the Core and you had the full support of the Zoners. I don't buy it.
2. I have seen not a single shread of In game Role play to support this in any manor. Unless I have an above mentioned faction Tag, I'm a target. Period.
3. I must have missed this civil war. Was this before or after the Zoners starting attacking ships who attacked you?
4. If the SCRA fight for the working class, why do they hire the best mercs to take out working class ships? Would they mind if I delivered food to their home system? How about Ruffugees from a war torn planet to a free port near them? I think Id get hulled faster than I could say, "I surrender"

1) The Order fight the Wilde in the Omegas. If you read the news articles on Cadiz and Ronnedburg, you'll see that by the lore, the Hessians and Corsairs have suspended actively fighting each other due to a massive onslaught of Wilde. It's also said they're trying to capture Corsair tech, for whatever nefarious reasons. The Order were out in the Omegas to stop that from happening, not swap shots with the Core. The Core aren't their main priority. Not even close to their second priority.

2) The SCRA is not a direct descendent of the Eastern Coalition. It was founded much later by Sirians, emulating the Sol Coalition. They like to claim heritage from the saboteurs on the Hispania, but they were dust by the time the SCRA was founded. It's just Communist editing of the media to suit its own needs, at the end of the day. The Eastern Coalition of Sol has been dead and gone for 800 years. 800 years from now, I doubt people will remember much of anything about the Nazis either. Well, unless CoD is still about, in which case people will still be playing WW2 shooters in World at War XXXXIV.

3) I'd be interested in knowing which Zoners have been shooting to protect them... If it was in Baffin, then fair enough. The TAZ would probably shoot the aggressor whoever it was. If it was in the Taus and you were Gallic... That's because the entire server hates the Gauls. Get used to it. It's not due to a secret uberalliance between a bunch of factions.

The civil war was a big thing. The SCRA player faction actually split into two differently tagged groups and actively fought itself. Mind you, the SCRA is a huge group with a long and coloured history. It's as old as the Discovery mod and pre-dates your presence here by a hell of a long shot. I wouldn't expect you to know about half the stuff they've done. :P

4) The SCRA don't hire the Reavers. They hunt us. We actually had a massive argument with the Hessians because Reavers were docking on Ronneburg and attacking Omega 52. We hunt the Mandalorians as well. We even went so far as to bomb their hangar in Barrier Gate, a while back. Again, that event pre-dates you, so I wouldn't expect you to know about it. As a matter of a fact, the SCRA doesn't even have a bounty board, so... wat. :mellow:

EDIT: A point about the SCRA attacking civilians. I can assure you, if you see us fighting a civilian/corporate target, it's in self-defence. Our ID explicitly stops us from targeting them. As an example, we'll leave the swarm of BMM Mafics alone, until they group up with the BAF and attack us. Then we have to retaliate and defend ourselves.

EDIT2: I'd like to know who was attacking transports in GBs and cruisers. It's explicitly banned in our ID, in most cases.

EDIT3: I think you've got us confused with the RHA, who hire Reavers, pirate/murder civilians and also RP communists. :lol:

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[Daedric]

Not a single one of them which is reflected in their in game Role Play. If the SCRA wasnt the Coalition of Starlancer, they wouldnt visit the Omegas with cruisers and Gunboats to attack transports.

Who says they wouldn't? You? Who are you to define their role play? Hrm? I'm merely telling you what I've had the SCRA say in the past.

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[Jeremy Hunter]

Who says they wouldn't? You? Who are you to define their role play? Hrm? I'm merely telling you what I've had the SCRA say in the past.

Just so ya,know, last person who did,that had,his,balls torn off by HC.

Inb4 jammi

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[jammi]

Just so ya,know, last person who did,that had,his,balls torn off by HC.

Inb4 jammi

Check my edit and the edit time stamp. Inafter jammi. (sun)
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[Jeremy Hunter]

Check my edit and the edit time stamp. Inafter jammi. (sun)

:mellow:

Damn.

(bow)

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[Linkus]

Just a quick point.

Why would the CR not ally, or at least work with, those who are fighting their enemies?
Considering we are talking about moderate, democracy loving frenchies that is.
The SCRA and CR relationship is actually pretty easy to imagine. Both have strong governments that are supported by their people, perhaps with some coercion involved. They share many enemies and only rarely have differences in arguments.

Back to the main point.
For the CR 'alliances' (Noting that CR is only allied to the IMG, who supports them economically while CR do the fighting), why would the CR not ally with people?

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[Aphil]

4. If the SCRA fight for the working class, why do they hire the best mercs to take out working class ships? Would they mind if I delivered food to their home system? How about Ruffugees from a war torn planet to a free port near them? I think Id get hulled faster than I could say, "I surrender"

:lol:

We don't hire Mercenaries, we kill them. Nope, we wouldn't mind if you brought in food at all, if you have a Visa of course. The TAZ and OSI already bring in Refugee's so don't you worry your little head about that.:)

Not a single one of them which is reflected in their in game Role Play. If the SCRA wasnt the Coalition of Starlancer, they wouldnt visit the Omegas with cruisers and Gunboats to attack transports.

Haha? First, it'd be against the rules to blow up Transports with Cruisers. Furthmore, we can only destroy transports carrying Cardamine, Slaves, or have trespassed in Omega-52.

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[maximus995]

Not meant to be rude or anything but ya really wonder why?

Come on, RP doesnt holds any value on this server (and those that often claim it does are the worst OORP ***** on the server) add to that that most factionleaders RAPE RP as long as it benefits their own faction.
(for example the LR that suddenly came up with some ****ed up reason why they shouldnt be independant on OC's, read every ingame info ya can find/do the math/use common sense, they should be)

well the main point is: It is [color=#FF0000]WAY more important who ya have on skype and how much power ya have than you're actual Roleplay

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