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[Skullz]

Defending on self is not a sign of guilt. Only an idiot would say such a thing. Also I do not hold myself higher then them. I recognise our differences in age and life experience. But if you believe that it is arrogance that it is fact that I am older and wiser through my age and life experiences then you are only being agist.

There is a very common saying, 'The older you are, the wiser you become.' which will be only to to me and others as we gain age. That is a proven fact. If referencing a fact, when my intent is to show that I recognise something, is arrogance as you so put it, then I am arrogant as you so put it, but then you are being arrogant in the respect that you disagree with a fact that is proven, and also when the intent of the reference is to show that the person or persons respect that difference. Arrogance is an action, I am not being arrogant in the fashion of that I feel that their roleplay is worse than mine in their skill level. They are the one argueing that mine is wrong and stupid, based upon their own false interpretations of what I have written. I have made that clear to them explaining it. They don't want to listen to me (arrogance) and are not wishing to explain how they see it themselves.

So in reallity the most arrogant persons here are those that do not wish to understand what I have explained to them, and nor willing to explain their ideals of what should have happened.

Now either please stop wasting my time with yourself.

Edit: namely for the post Jammi just posted just before myself.

Thinking of hypocritical, I've also seen the chatlogs where you've admitted Dab has never insulted or coerced you, shortly after you've called him some absolutely vile things. You're not going to convince me it's Dab who has the issue here.

He has acted in a vile manner, I have not especially in relation to this. What I did own up to was of myself misintrepertating certain things about an issue that has already passed. Get your facts right.

So, how to improve? Certainly. Write back in civil, formal tones. Don't get flustered or angry. Be informative. Don't snap. Like I said, it's not a pissing contest to see who can be the snarkiest.

I did not recieve a post that was in a civil manner. A Civil manner includes and up to the following. Being of talking in relation to what is said, and it's intentions. I made those very clear. Saying that it is something is is considered rude in manners.
They were also talking thus because they though it was something that it is not and argue it oorp and inrp with me still, is talking down to me and also rude. It is also written in a sarcastic fashion. I see it. Deadric does to, and The IMG roleplay in the thread also shows this.
Also repling in a fashion of making it something that it is not is also not the fashion that a politician would take.

Obviously your view of manners does not extend to mine. Why should I treat someone whom gets something wrong and sarcastic in the fashion that they think your intention is to do a certain something, when in fact it is not. No as you still do not want to see my point of view please get out of this thread. This discussion is closed.

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[SpaceTime]

I am wondering how do you represent the OSC faction as a whole, when your faction is not official yet.

[Snak5]

Only an idiot would say such a thing.

Oh good to know.

Bye.

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[Skullz]

@ SpaceTime by the fact that I have created, running and playing a OS&C player group of players that want to play Orbital Spa and Cruise. No need for the sarcasm though mate, but thank you. I do have the right to make a unofficial faction.

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[SpaceTime]

@ SpaceTime by the fact that I have created, running and playing a OS&C player group of players that want to play Orbital Spa and Cruise. No need for the sarcasm though mate, but thank you. I do have the right to make a unofficial faction.

I am still wondering where you found my sarcasm :mellow:

When you re-negotiate treaties like the Curacao one, I am not sure if your player group has the jurisdiction as an an unofficial faction, to represent the OS&C as a whole.

[jammi]

He has acted in a vile manner, I have not especially in relation to this. What I did own up to was of myself misintrepertating certain things about an issue that has already passed. Get your facts right.

I do have my facts right. I'd post the log, but that'd get me banned. Needless to say, when you've called someone a "f***ing twisted piece of s**t that only f***ing wants me to deal with f***ing more s**t am f***ing giving you"... Well, that's one hell of a misinterpretation. Your problem with Dab seems to go quite a way back.

If this is the wisdom that comes with years, I'll stick with youth, thank you. From what I'd read, the most vile thing Dab did in return was block you from his contacts so he wouldn't have to have such bile hurled at him again in the future.

It is also written in a sarcastic fashion. I see it. Deadric does to, and The IMG roleplay in the thread also shows this.
Also repling in a fashion of making it something that it is not is also not the fashion that a politician would take.

By all means, highlight the relevant 'sarcastic' passages of those first two posts.

Skullz, you're reading sarcasm and personal attacks into everything. There's a word for that: paranoia.

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[Daedric]

I am still wondering where you found my sarcasm :mellow:

When you re-negotiate treaties like the Curacao one, I am not sure if your player group has the jurisdiction as an an unofficial faction, to represent the OS&C as a whole.

There is no rule stating he can't. It is up to the players playing the IMG, Liberty, & Bretonian counterparts if they wish to allow it.

As I've seen no other OSC group bouncing around, I don't really think there is a problem with it. Though I'd wager a certain individual will probably be popping up with his own OSC group just because he doesn't like this one.

I'm not even sure why this is such a big ordeal. All sides were abrasive to one another in that exchange; I can see that and I am a third party. Jammi I think you need to understand that abrasive and sarcastic are subjective. What I find abrasive/sarcastic, you might not.

The abrasive part, for me, was the subtle insults and threats on the part of Bretonia.

Skullz has done nothing wrong. All he did was role play. Same as both Dab & Alvin.

EDIT: Oh. After Daedric's post - I don't think someone should step down as leader. All of us slip time from time. But error and trial makes us better and that is what matters.

That's the thing. There was no error. None. Not by Skullz as a player. I'll agree his character made some errors in her dealings with the other characters. That is called role play.

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[Skullz]

That proof you have there is before I owned up to my missinterpretation. MISSINTERPRETATION. Hence why your belief for it is untrue and unrelated to this. Or related to the way I have tried to talk with Dab oorp in skype. Whom typically just rudely shoves me along typically. I have tried to have a good relationship with dab, I will still try to. But he acts in a rude fashion to me oorp, shoving me along.

Any seems more clear that you have a problem with me then you do with how I roleplay. Nice to see direct flames. Bye

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[Dab]

How about you post the entirety of our skype chat history here and let people form their own conclusions based on the raw data? I unfortunately cannot give anything past a few days ago, as I reinstalled Windows recently.

If your behavior truly was aboveboard throughout our skype conversations, you should have no problem posting them in their entirety.


EDIT: I can get the logs from the GRN/FP10 treaty discussion chat via the present third party however. If you have no problem with me posting those.

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[Skullz]

It is more of a different thing here dab. You are willing to provide others of our chat. I have not given anyone anything in the chat logs between ourselves. That single difference shows that your bahavour is worse than my own by the fact that you are not respecting myself. I however have not, in showing respect between me and you.

So I will only leave it at that. Everyone can make their own observations by the previous paragraph about how we as players have respected each other. I have no chip with you Dab. Sometimes you do things that are odd in my way of thinking. I have said that. I have also not gone around showing people our chat logs.

Prehaps you should consider looking at your own behavour before commentig on my own. As my conclusion of that you are/have giving/given to others the chat loggs between myself and you, only shows that you are wishing to plant seeds of hate/dislike with players you know and myself. Please don't take offense Dab, though you might because knowing you, you will as you take nearly everything I say as an insult. Though I have no idea why.

I will also say, that you are unwilling to explain your own roleplay in which that gave the response you orginially got. And that you still are argueing even when I just casually changed it, to act passively to those who have only complained and flamed me. So I will tell you now, grow up, act like a adult, explain your rp, see my rp from my view point and try to understand it. Untill then do not talk to me as you have only shown me that you do not want to understand my view point. Nor wish to understand it, nor explain your own roleplay. I edited my own post in respect to be passive in the complaints brought to me. And all I get is name calling, things thrown at me that are completely unrelated to this, the roleplay I did and how I have been calmly responding to you all and have explained my own viewpoint to the roleplay that has happened.

If you only wish to continue down this road that those of whom, being Alvin, Dab, Arthur, Jammi and Spacetime, wish to make false claims, flaming and show no respect that I have explained it to them in my own viewpoint, nor willing to explain why they think it is wrong. And not one also has shown their respect in that I have acted passively, namely by editing my post. So please stop posting if you are only staying on the path that you currently are.

Untill you do start showing respect in how I have responded to the complaints that you all have got I will ignore you here and roleplay my characters how I have done before complaints were brought up.

Now good bye.

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